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    Redesign of all HQ and support factories

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    • SaverS Offline
      Saver @EcoNowCryLater
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      @TAG_EcoKing
      Just in case I misunderstood ^^.

      The mod that can already be used with the normal game is:

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      The mod for tests and comparisons is this one:

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      Sy, as I've mentioned before, my English isn't very good.

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      • SaverS Offline
        Saver @EcoNowCryLater
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        @TAG_EcoKing Which program are you using here?

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        • EcoNowCryLaterE Offline
          EcoNowCryLater
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          MODO

          Design without project is just a mere coincidence

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          • SaverS Offline
            Saver
            last edited by

            Hello everyone,

            While testing the Co-op Missions sounds, I discovered a bug in the Factory Rework mod.

            The bug occurred when the player attempted to take over enemy units. This was something I had never used for testing in a normal game.

            I hope I've fixed it. I added the modified function to the Unit.lua file in the Seraphim Water Factories, instead of replacing the entire file in the mod. Here's another image for easier understanding.

            previously
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            now
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            The file Lua/Sim/Uint.lua has now been removed from the mod.

            If you find any errors or have suggestions for improvement, please post them here.

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            • SaverS Offline
              Saver
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              I need your help

              Hello everyone,

              This will be my last post for this year.

              I would like to complete this project for the redesign of the factories. Since there has unfortunately been little feedback on the factories in recent weeks, I will focus on the Aeon Land factory once again in what will be my last attempt for the time being.

              However, I need your help in the form of your opinion.

              The newly created model is okay, but many people would prefer the design of the model before the factories were rebuilt.

              Here are a few pictures for comparison:

              Model before the factory rebuild
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              Unfortunately, I don't have a front view of this model 😕 (which would also give a better idea of its size).

              Current design in FAF
              3.jpg 4.jpg

              Current design in my mod
              5.jpg 6.jpg

              Here are two approximations of the old design in two variants.

              Variant 1
              7.jpg 8.jpg

              Variant 2, without the tower at the front
              9.jpg 10.jpg

              The difficulty with this model lies in its width. The side wings must not be too large, so that they do not protrude into other models.
              11.jpg

              However, this model is much easier to distinguish than the FAF & Mod version.

              Here is the comparison
              1.jpg 2.jpg

              Now I would like to ask you once again to cast your vote or share your ideas.

              You can find the models shown in the test mod:
              SAVERS FACTORY REWORK + FAF

              Without this feedback, I would currently leave everything as it is.

              So please feel free to contribute your thoughts.

              I wish you all the best for the coming year 2026 🙂 🖖

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              • Y Offline
                Yeager
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                I think the mod looks great and is an improvement over current ver., assuming it doesnt affect pathing

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                • AmygdalaA Offline
                  Amygdala
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                  Great work!
                  Perhaps the current version and variant 2 are better gameplay wise because they allow to easier see whats beeing built.
                  Are there any changes that effect the hitbox size (relevant for shielding, TML etc)?

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                  • BlackrobeB Offline
                    Blackrobe
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                    I like your modded version.

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                    • maudlin27M Online
                      maudlin27
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                      I'm assuming this is the Aeon HQ? In which case based on the screenshot I have a slight preference towards Var. 2

                      M27AI and M28AI developer:
                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v81-devlog
                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v294
                      M28 trophy holders: Radde, Yew (Radde trophy, v285) and Zwaffel (Sladow trophy, v284)

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                      • SaverS Offline
                        Saver @Yeager
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                        @Yeager Thanks for your comment. The waypoints are not affected by the mod.

                        With the possible exception of the water factories. However, this area is small, as only the building area has been increased by 2 places.

                        At least I couldn't find any errors in the test.

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                          Saver @Amygdala
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                          @Amygdala Thank you very much for your helpful comment. I haven't looked at the hitboxes in the mod yet. I'll do that 🙂

                          Since the Aeon Land Factory was the smallest of all the factories, the shields should cover it. But I'll check that and fix it if necessary.

                          Could you be more specific about which model you like better?
                          (FAF / Mod / Var.1 / Var. 2)

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                          • E33144211332424E Offline
                            E33144211332424
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                            Like maudlin, I think ver.2 is the best one when it comes to blending design with functionality.
                            Cuz while I prefer the way ver.1 looks like, I'm afraid that it might obscure to much from enemy player. So in the ultra rare case scenario where they have to choose to bomb the unit inside or not, it might obscure too much.

                            And maybe, just maybe it would look better if the pilars in front would actually support one of the hanging "wings" on top of factory. But that's beside the point, as all versions are clear upgrade over current one.

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                              Saver @E33144211332424
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                              @e33144211332424

                              Wow, I didn't know that units that are under construction can be attacked. I hadn't considered that.

                              But wouldn't that affect all land factories?
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                              The support function sounds like a good idea. However, I'm not sure how I could implement this visually. The columns are slightly further forward than the roof elements. I also think I read in an older post that the factory is too close to the UEF. And I'd like to avoid that ^^

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                              • SaverS Offline
                                Saver
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                                As mentioned by @amygdala , no hitbox was considered in this project. Based on the current assessment, I am uncertain whether I should adjust it. The hitboxes are very different and could be more of a focus for the balance team.

                                There are far too many images here for you to form an opinion.

                                10.jpg 11.jpg 12.jpg 13.jpg 14.jpg 15.jpg 16.jpg 17.jpg 18.jpg 19.jpg

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                                • K Offline
                                  Krapougnak
                                  last edited by

                                  Ver. 1 and 2 are clearly an improvement. I can't choose between them, but clearly one of the two as both versions are better than the actual unit. Thanks for the great work.

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                                  • SaverS Offline
                                    Saver
                                    last edited by Saver

                                    @nuggets
                                    So you mean it like that?

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                                    Currently, air factories behave this way when an engine is being built.

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                                    Would this adjustment be okay for others as well?

                                    To make it look right, I would suggest that the unit can also drive diagonally out of the respective factory, which doesn't completely distort the look.

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                                      Nuggets FAF Association Board @Saver
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                                      @Saver said in Redesign of all HQ and support factories:

                                      @nuggets
                                      So you mean it like that?

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                                      Yeah

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                                      • BlackYpsB Offline
                                        BlackYps
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                                        I don't consider this to be an issue that needs fixing

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                                        • SaverS Offline
                                          Saver
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi, I think it's good that opinions and ideas about the project are being shared. I also appreciate the highlighting of problems that were not previously recognized as such. And this phase shows new possibilities or ways in which a potential problem can be solved.

                                          In my view, an idea should always find its way into a discussion and not be immediately dismissed.

                                          Of course, I accept all opinions. In turn, other opinions must also be accepted, or a compromise must be reached. That sounds very philosophical, but it expresses the core of what I want to achieve.

                                          This is just a brief statement from my perspective 🙂

                                          Here are a few opinions from the posts mentioned over the last few days. (These were also mentioned in another forum post, but I didn't want to overload that individual topic with them.)

                                          @jip I also believe that all factions should definitely retain their diversity.

                                          @e33144211332424 I think your ideas are good, but currently very difficult to implement.

                                          @nuggets I wanted to test a small idea without making any modifications, but unfortunately the result is worse than the current option.

                                          So I would keep the idea in mind in case a compromise is needed.

                                          Here are three pictures of the test/idea:
                                          01756104-fb08-492e-bb45-ba81224f2cf0-image.png 2.jpg 3.jpg

                                          But it was only a quick attempt, as my free time is currently taken up elsewhere.

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                                            Nuggets FAF Association Board @Saver
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                                            @Saver Anything helps imo, but the most annoying part is when the engie has to go to the top right (which is the case in every setons game as top rock 🙂

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