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    FtXCommando
    last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 11:08

    or maybe one rework is harder than another

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      MazorNoob
      last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 11:16

      Give it 800 HP and an equivalent of one-and-a-half T2 bomber volley, band-aid fix done. Already better than Loya special ability that's still being tweaked to not be useless.

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        FtXCommando
        last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 11:41

        800 hp mercy that does like 1800 damage is a band aid fix?

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          MazorNoob
          last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 11:50

          When it's dodgeable like Notha, inaccurate like Corsair or spreads damage over a football field like Janus, yes

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            FtXCommando
            last edited by FtXCommando 2 Jun 2023, 12:04 6 Feb 2023, 12:04

            1. It doing lump sum damage ie corsair or notha is pointless, specter exists

            2. Making it do aoe ie janus requires animation and projectile work

            3. Beyond that, it still needs to not be janky or look stupid while also giving the information on what it’s doing clearly

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              Mach
              last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 12:39

              would it be possible to use a toggle ability on it to switch between doing high single target damage vs lower aoe damage?

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                FtXCommando
                last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 13:21

                You know the whole point of the aoe rework is to solve the issue of it being a high damage single target unit

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                  MazorNoob @FtXCommando
                  last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 13:52

                  @ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                  1. It doing lump sum damage ie corsair or notha is pointless, specter exists

                  That's like saying that Corsairs and Nothas are pointless because gunships exist, or that strats are useless because T3 gunships exist. Dealing big lump sum damage even when there's some AA around is useful. I don't think Specter has 1200 alpha like fighter bombers have anyway.

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                    FtXCommando
                    last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 13:58

                    Do you know what kinda damage renegade does? Do you notice how stinger and janus have different damage output methods? Seraphim gunship is an exception because it’s supposed to be t2.5.

                    Strats are aoe and t3 gunships aren’t?

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                      Zeldafanboy
                      last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 14:04

                      Do people still not understand that turning the Mercy into an AOE utility unit is just a straight buff to Aeon T2

                      put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                        Mach @FtXCommando
                        last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 14:17

                        @ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                        You know the whole point of the aoe rework is to solve the issue of it being a high damage single target unit

                        well I never use them or see them used so idk what is the problem with that

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                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 14:19

                          For one, it’s completely insane to give a unit that level of flexibility when Aeon has the best gunship already. For two, the unit’s current design does not work with the simulated projectile type of gameplay that FA works towards. Trick AA to turn away, now you die even with your ACU in the middle of 3 aa turrets.

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                            MazorNoob
                            last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 14:23

                            Aeon gunship was buffed/redesigned to compensate for mercy being what it is, why not revert it to what it was along with mercy changes?

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                              Blodir
                              last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 14:33

                              Legit just remove mercy from the game for the time being.

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                                FtXCommando @MazorNoob
                                last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 14:56

                                @mazornoob said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                                Aeon gunship was buffed/redesigned to compensate for mercy being what it is, why not revert it to what it was along with mercy changes?

                                I mean if by compensate you mean literally pretend it doesn’t exist then yeah it was

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                                  ThomasHiatt
                                  last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 16:23

                                  Give mercies a sacrifice ability or healing

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                                    BlackYps @FtXCommando
                                    last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 16:28

                                    @ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                                    Making it do aoe ie janus requires animation and projectile work

                                    Deribus already made a mod for this https://forum.faforever.com/topic/1834/ideas-for-mercy-changes/13

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                                      FtXCommando @BlackYps
                                      last edited by FtXCommando 2 Jun 2023, 16:48 6 Feb 2023, 16:48

                                      @blackyps said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                                      @ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                                      Making it do aoe ie janus requires animation and projectile work

                                      Deribus already made a mod for this https://forum.faforever.com/topic/1834/ideas-for-mercy-changes/13

                                      I’m not saying it doesn’t exist rn, I’m just explaining why it isn’t something immediately changed even if balance team has generally considered the unit problematic.

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                                        Mach @FtXCommando
                                        last edited by Mach 2 Jun 2023, 19:46 6 Feb 2023, 19:46

                                        @ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                                        Trick AA to turn away, now you die even with your ACU in the middle of 3 aa turrets.

                                        can't this be fixed by making mercies top priority target for aa and making them targettable for longer, or perhaps not becoming untargettable at all (swarm of energy things) and just do damage by charging into target like a normal missile would?

                                        @thomashiatt said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

                                        Give mercies a sacrifice ability or healing

                                        guided healing missile sounds interesting for aeon, almost as annoying if something that was getting sniped gets healed though

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                                          arma473
                                          last edited by arma473 2 Jun 2023, 19:55 6 Feb 2023, 19:54

                                          Mercies should just automatically die if an anti-air unit is inside their vision radius.

                                          (Edit: but don't include true multi-purpose units like Megalith, Spider, Cybran SACU. They would only suicide if they saw a dedicated AA meaning T1-T3 static AA emplacements and T1-T3 mobile AA)

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