Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback

800 hp mercy that does like 1800 damage is a band aid fix?

When it's dodgeable like Notha, inaccurate like Corsair or spreads damage over a football field like Janus, yes

1. It doing lump sum damage ie corsair or notha is pointless, specter exists

2. Making it do aoe ie janus requires animation and projectile work

3. Beyond that, it still needs to not be janky or look stupid while also giving the information on what it’s doing clearly

would it be possible to use a toggle ability on it to switch between doing high single target damage vs lower aoe damage?

You know the whole point of the aoe rework is to solve the issue of it being a high damage single target unit

@ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

1. It doing lump sum damage ie corsair or notha is pointless, specter exists

That's like saying that Corsairs and Nothas are pointless because gunships exist, or that strats are useless because T3 gunships exist. Dealing big lump sum damage even when there's some AA around is useful. I don't think Specter has 1200 alpha like fighter bombers have anyway.

Do you know what kinda damage renegade does? Do you notice how stinger and janus have different damage output methods? Seraphim gunship is an exception because it’s supposed to be t2.5.

Strats are aoe and t3 gunships aren’t?

Do people still not understand that turning the Mercy into an AOE utility unit is just a straight buff to Aeon T2

@ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

You know the whole point of the aoe rework is to solve the issue of it being a high damage single target unit

well I never use them or see them used so idk what is the problem with that

For one, it’s completely insane to give a unit that level of flexibility when Aeon has the best gunship already. For two, the unit’s current design does not work with the simulated projectile type of gameplay that FA works towards. Trick AA to turn away, now you die even with your ACU in the middle of 3 aa turrets.

Aeon gunship was buffed/redesigned to compensate for mercy being what it is, why not revert it to what it was along with mercy changes?

Legit just remove mercy from the game for the time being.

@mazornoob said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

Aeon gunship was buffed/redesigned to compensate for mercy being what it is, why not revert it to what it was along with mercy changes?

I mean if by compensate you mean literally pretend it doesn’t exist then yeah it was

Give mercies a sacrifice ability or healing

@ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

Making it do aoe ie janus requires animation and projectile work

Deribus already made a mod for this https://forum.faforever.com/topic/1834/ideas-for-mercy-changes/13

@blackyps said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

@ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

Making it do aoe ie janus requires animation and projectile work

Deribus already made a mod for this https://forum.faforever.com/topic/1834/ideas-for-mercy-changes/13

I’m not saying it doesn’t exist rn, I’m just explaining why it isn’t something immediately changed even if balance team has generally considered the unit problematic.

@ftxcommando said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

Trick AA to turn away, now you die even with your ACU in the middle of 3 aa turrets.

can't this be fixed by making mercies top priority target for aa and making them targettable for longer, or perhaps not becoming untargettable at all (swarm of energy things) and just do damage by charging into target like a normal missile would?

@thomashiatt said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

Give mercies a sacrifice ability or healing

guided healing missile sounds interesting for aeon, almost as annoying if something that was getting sniped gets healed though

Mercies should just automatically die if an anti-air unit is inside their vision radius.

(Edit: but don't include true multi-purpose units like Megalith, Spider, Cybran SACU. They would only suicide if they saw a dedicated AA meaning T1-T3 static AA emplacements and T1-T3 mobile AA)

If your idea immediatly needs half a dozen exceptions to work, it's usually not a good idea in the first place

@blackyps said in Balance Patch 3750 - Feedback:

If your idea immediatly needs half a dozen exceptions to work, it's usually not a good idea in the first place

Then don't call "exceptions"

Just say you're adding an "anti-mercy field" to those 6 types of units (T1-T3 static/mobile AA)