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    Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
    last edited by 23 Oct 2021, 19:08

    While that is true it's actually against shareholder value principles. As far as I can see all big companies value riskless earnings now much more than potential riskily higher earnings much later. 🤷

    He said, "I've been to the year 3000
    Not much has changed, but they live underwater
    And your great-great-great-granddaughter
    Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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      thecore
      last edited by 23 Oct 2021, 21:43

      There is no harm in asking Square Enix, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The worst they could say is NO. Who knows, maybe a deal could be made.

      Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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        FtXCommando
        last edited by FtXCommando 23 Oct 2021, 21:44

        This has been tried. Several times over several years. Also, they spent 35 million on the IP in 2007. They aren't going to be selling it to us unless we have a Russian oil mogul playing FAF.

        In fact we DID have somebody willing to throw that sort of money around and Square Enix was still uninterested.

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          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
          last edited by Brutus5000 24 Oct 2021, 04:29

          But that was more than half a decade ago. Things might have changed. Also I guess the hardest part is even finding the right person to talk to in such a big company. I don't know if visionik ever found the right person.

          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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            KaletheQuick
            last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 07:24

            The only way to get them to budge on that one is if we all stop playing and casting. We keep generating sales and until their sheets read 0ÂĄ for awhile they probably won't shift position.

            And heck this source code. If I had enough money to pull this off Square I'd have enough to hire devs and make something more modern to read in the blueprints and map files.

            Otherwise look at obscure leftover laws that allows the seizure of assets held by foreign corporations.

            You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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              Femboy Promotions team @KaletheQuick
              last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 00:22

              @kalethequick I doubt they'll even bat an eye for it, I worry more about the fact that they will sell it to someone else because they think it became obsolete

              FAF Website Developer

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                FtXCommando
                last edited by FtXCommando 25 Oct 2021, 00:30

                FAF funds are so minor I doubt we even pay off the interest that the original 35 million could have been getting in a savings account, even if you assume literally every dollar of supreme commander since 2013 was due to FAF.

                Square Enix bought it for cheap as a AAA title during a bankruptcy sale, they aren’t going to keel over from community action. In fact, we aren’t even certain if Square Enix themselves even HAVE the source code for this game and if they don’t the entire discussion is totally pointless because who cares about the ip.

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                  FtXCommando @FtXCommando
                  last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 00:31

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                    snoog
                    last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 00:47

                    Even if we somehow had the money, and SE was willing to sell, it'd probably be better to just put that much money towards developing a new, modern game.

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                      Aulex @snoog
                      last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 02:32

                      @snagglefox said in Code Wars Episode IV: A New Hope:

                      Even if we somehow had the money, and SE was willing to sell, it'd probably be better to just put that much money towards developing a new, modern game.

                      That wouldn’t be very forever of forged alliance forever.

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                        KaletheQuick @FtXCommando
                        last edited by KaletheQuick 25 Oct 2021, 06:52

                        @ftxcommando I care about the IP. This game is what got me through that one time I accidentally made ISIS. Sorry, Middle east...

                        Though I'm willing to abandon it if we made a community built knockoff. With the United Dirt Entente, the Cyberon, and Eon Glowocracy.

                        You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
                          last edited by Brutus5000 25 Oct 2021, 08:44

                          Buying just the IP without source code would be already a major leap forward out of the legal grey area we are operating under.
                          We could not just distribute the mods, but Forged Alliance itself as all-in-one package.

                          Also theoretically we could reuse all assets in an open source rewrite attempt.
                          Using the original assets is an important aspect to keep the flair. If you rewrite something and use different assets, it's just a new game.

                          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                            thecore @Brutus5000
                            last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 22:34

                            @brutus5000 Well, there is really only one way to find out, reach out to square enix and see what they say. I think this is their contact page https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/contact.html

                            Maybe a partnership deal could be made or something. We can speculate on what they might say or do but at the end on the day the best way to know is just to ask even if it is a longshot.

                            Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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