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Introducing Mapgen Week on Ladder

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    Blackheart
    last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 12:12

    Nice, great step in the right direction which is all competition done on generated maps! I think im gonna play some games if its still possible these days.

    Ban Anime

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      Valki
      last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 12:21

      @Rezy-Noob I am pretty neutral on this and will play anyway, I am just asking if this was well thought out.

      One thing is communication, how will the silent <1k player group know this is a 1 week event and not a permanent change?

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        BlackYps
        last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 13:06

        By looking at the news I guess?

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          Valki @BlackYps
          last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 13:12

          @blackyps said in Introducing Mapgen Week on Ladder:

          By looking at the news I guess?

          Do you know how many people do?
          But never mind, I am probably overly concerned about risks and details.

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            FemtoZetta
            last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 14:18

            I think there should be info about this on the Matchmaking tab, just the news is not enough.

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              Askaholic @FemtoZetta
              last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 15:09

              @femtozetta probably true, but my guess is that would only happen if/when this or other matchmaker events become more of a regular thing.

              I really like the idea of having matchmaker events happen for specific time periods and I’m glad to see someone making it happen with the tools that are already available.

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                gugalgz
                last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 15:13

                Good initiative Arch, looking forward to playing some mapgen only

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                  Morax @Valki
                  last edited by Morax 8 Jun 2021, 18:58 6 Aug 2021, 18:33

                  @valki said in Introducing Mapgen Week on Ladder:

                  A bold move, last to suggest something (more) drastic was nine with his forced TMM week.

                  Has this been considered carefully with enough people? Isn't it safer to have it run on a separate matchmaker? I understood there are 6 slots in the client for matchmakers.

                  Just FYI arch ran this idea across the ladder team and we agreed that it would be interesting to see how it goes. One week should be plenty a sample size to get an initial reaction, and we will react to feedback accordingly. For example, if there are pouring messages of disdain, we will cut it short; if there is a mix, we will wait to evaluate after the fact; if there is an influx of positive and excited individuals, we may introduce some "map gen months" and keep going.

                  The map gen feature is only recently something that gained mass popularity, and from my personal experience, am seeing it used more and more lately.

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                    Valki
                    last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 20:29

                    Very happy to know this was carefully considered 🙂 - as I said just overly concerned but perhaps also about FAF organization sorry @archsimkat

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                      Aulex
                      last edited by 6 Aug 2021, 20:51

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                        Deribus Global Moderator
                        last edited by 7 Aug 2021, 06:02

                        I definitely think this should be for everyone, not particular rating brackets. There's no reason to host and advertise an event only to say "oh but only the top 10% of players can participate."

                        Lower rated players (myself included) are less likely to have map specific build orders and gameplay styles anyway.

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                          maudlin27
                          last edited by 7 Aug 2021, 06:54

                          Good idea. However will the map size be weighted to be similar to normal ladder, or will it be 1/3 5x5 1/3 10x10 1/3 20x20? If possible (if not already done) I'd suggest it mirror the normal map pool weighting for a particular rating bracket.

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                            ETFreeman
                            last edited by ETFreeman 8 Jul 2021, 17:21 7 Aug 2021, 17:18

                            Lololol
                            That's gonna be really funny

                            No whoring builds, pure fun and skill. Love it

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                              waffelzNoob
                              last edited by 8 Aug 2021, 12:52

                              A lot of people will love it, and a lot of people will hate it. Just like with every other decision on faf lol

                              frick snoops!

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                                Jip @waffelzNoob
                                last edited by 8 Aug 2021, 12:52

                                @zwaffelnoob You just summarized life, nothing to do with FAF 😄 .

                                A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                                  Femboy Promotions team
                                  last edited by 8 Aug 2021, 15:59

                                  I believe this is a great decision! Mapgen has been one of the greatest additions to FAF (thanks Neroxis) and it makes for really interesting battles sometimes (specially considering how reclaim heavy they can be, t3 and t4 become doable on a ladder match)

                                  FAF Website Developer

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                                    Katharsas @Femboy
                                    last edited by 8 Aug 2021, 22:17

                                    @javi said in Introducing Mapgen Week on Ladder:

                                    (thanks Neroxis)

                                    don't forget Sheikah who has improved it a tremenduous amount for more than a year now : )

                                    +1 like to mapgen week.

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                                      Askaholic
                                      last edited by 8 Aug 2021, 22:27

                                      Let’s rename it to "Neroxis and Sheikah Map Generator". And while we’re at it let’s rename the faf client to "Downlords and Axels and Brutus’ and Sheikahs and All those other guys FAF Client"

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                                        Freedom_
                                        last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 19:11

                                        Nice we get to see how good people truly are, instead of how good they are at copying builds.

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                                          Geosearchef @Askaholic
                                          last edited by Geosearchef 8 Sept 2021, 22:50 9 Aug 2021, 22:49

                                          @askaholic said in Introducing Mapgen Week on Ladder:

                                          Let’s rename it to "Neroxis and Sheikah Map Generator". And while we’re at it let’s rename the faf client to "Downlords and Axels and Brutus’ and Sheikahs and All those other guys FAF Client"

                                          How about Askaholic's FAF server? Can I give the ice adapter a nICE name?
                                          In all seriousness, we should remove people's names from those projects. This applies especially to the client, which only contained Downlord's name as he was asked to distinguish it from the official FAF client and name it unofficially, instead of using sth like "FAF Client 2.0", ... .

                                          Having issues with connectivity / ICE? Talk to me.

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