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    • ValkiV
      Valki @maudlin27
      last edited by

      @maudlin27 I think the problem is being kicked, pretty unique to FAF by the way.
      If a World of Warcraft (2005 era) dungeon party already accepted a paladin as healer, kicking him to take a priest is rude.

      There is something to be said for people to become unkickable after a certain period say 1 minute. Saying they should expect it is like saying your personal wait time is worth less because your CPU is worth less.

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        Tagada Balance Team
        last edited by

        Just play in the upcoming TMM, the player experience for newer players (no games, getting kicked due to low game number/grey rating, etc.) was the driving factor for devs to implement the TMM and it aims to solve those issues.

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        • H-masterH
          H-master @Tagada
          last edited by

          @tagada said in Why would you have left FAF?:

          Just play in the upcoming TMM, the player experience for newer players (no games, getting kicked due to low game number/grey rating, etc.) was the driving factor for devs to implement the TMM and it aims to solve those issues.

          Any news on a release date?

          Check out my maps here:

          Madness 1 - 10

          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/480/h-master-s-maps

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          • FtXCommandoF
            FtXCommando
            last edited by

            People will just start hosting "almost everyone welcome" or whatever. Enforcement will always be 5 steps behind actors, even when the enforcement is actually paid to do their job.

            Likewise, hosting has way too many logistical problems (rehosting, changing rating halfway thru a host being up, changing the type of game, etc) to ever consider something like a time limit on kicking people reasonable. Also, I could just move you to observer, turn off observer, and launch the game getting you automatically kicked anyway.

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            • ValkiV
              Valki @FtXCommando
              last edited by

              @ftxcommando block that too then. If you make it more inconvenient, a certain number of people will no longer do it.

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              • FtXCommandoF
                FtXCommando
                last edited by

                Ok so now a 500 rated dude joins my 1500+ lobby and I physically cannot remove him unless I literally stare at my screen for the 6 hours my host is up. Awesome system there.

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                • veteranasheV
                  veteranashe
                  last edited by

                  Really just be self regulating and when you get kicked add that host as a foe and don't join their games anymore, I e also not joined games with toxic players in them.

                  When a host kicks someone in a all welcome game, I leave the lobby and add them as a foe.

                  Spread this behavior around, I've seen it work a little bit.

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                    Broker
                    last edited by

                    95% of the fights are DualGap.
                    95% of the tactics on this map: the front is not important, the fleet is not important, the air is so-so + the work of a sniper, the most important thing is to build a big cannon. Whoever built it first usually won. that's all. Repeat 100 times the same thing.

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                      Betelgeuse-
                      last edited by

                      Stop shitting dual gap, it can be played in various ways. Just like chess, backgammon and other old style games. Same map , same set up, each time by different tactics... If you are smart enough to understand dual then go and f*** everyone, but of course you would not do that, just because you are not smart enough

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                      • ValkiV
                        Valki @FtXCommando
                        last edited by

                        @ftxcommando said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                        Ok so now a 500 rated dude joins my 1500+ lobby and I physically cannot remove him unless I literally stare at my screen for the 6 hours my host is up. Awesome system there.

                        That's a bad example as you can enforce a rating limit... If you don't then you don't care enough and mr 500 deserves to keep his place after your 6 hours.

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                        • FtXCommandoF
                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by

                          More like I'm going to relentlessly bully the 500 so he leaves the lobby because no mod is online during burgerzone hours so I can't pm the mod to force close his game.

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                            Sheikah
                            last edited by Sheikah

                            @FtXCommando There is literally a button enforce rating range so that people outside that range cannot join or even see your game. No bullying needed.
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                            • FtXCommandoF
                              FtXCommando
                              last edited by FtXCommando

                              Yeah but that isn't used by tons of dudes and it still doesn't address stuff about people changing their rating minimums depending on who is online. You're harming all of FAF because of dudes disliking high deviation players and kicking them in all welcome lobbies.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                All Welcome = ALL Welcome, ALL, LOL

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                                  Tagada Balance Team
                                  last edited by Tagada

                                  There will be a post about TMM very soon. We are also working on adressing the greyness of the rating and trying to find the best implementation of allowing players to get some Global rating through playing TMM so that they don't get kicked from custom game lobbies. More info will come soon tm

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                                    Broker @Betelgeuse-
                                    last edited by

                                    @betelgeuse said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                                    Stop shitting dual gap, it can be played in various ways. Just like chess, backgammon and other old style games. Same map , same set up, each time by different tactics... If you are smart enough to understand dual then go and f*** everyone, but of course you would not do that, just because you are not smart enough

                                    You can go to McDonald's once a week, but if you eat it all the time. you will feel bad. Here is just such a case.

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                                    • biassB
                                      biass @A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      fiercelv said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                                      Well, you asked.

                                      1. Rampant, unpunished lagers. REHOST 24/7 Self explanatory.

                                      2. Toxicity.
                                        2.3. Russian language in the mixed nationalities teams. LOL

                                      Today on FAF:
                                      Speaking Russian is toxicity.

                                      Bilingual requirement for thee but not for me~

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @biass
                                        last edited by A Former User

                                        @biass
                                        Умеешь писать по-русски? xD

                                        Player from Russia writes to player from USA: дай инжа. Smart? USA player's reaction?

                                        And, ofcourse, not all Russian players are like that, but those concrete cases form the negative attitude towards Russian players in general.

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                                        • ResistanceR
                                          Resistance
                                          last edited by

                                          there're always toxic and brilliant people all around,doesn't matter if he's russian or not lol and ofc you're gonna get a russian mark with 11/12 russian players,not sure why is it a problem and not sure why is speaking russian toxic?

                                          queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                            PerciThundercock
                                            last edited by

                                            He is right. But really, you can't do anything with that. Many russians now has very nationalists opinions and has near-zero tolerance to another languages, mix this with lack of education and you got what you have.
                                            You can complain about it, but you cant fix it without completly ban russia.

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