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    • BlackYpsB
      BlackYps
      last edited by BlackYps

      The minimap on mapgen maps uses different colors in an effort to improve the contrast, to make it easier to read the minimap. Do you like that or would you prefer if they used the same color as all other maps?
      For reference this is a gpg map:
      Screenshot 2023-12-03 202153.png

      and this is a mapgen map
      Screenshot 2023-12-03 203918.png

      Further comparison can be found here https://forum.faforever.com/topic/6874/opinions-on-minimap-colors-wanted/14

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      • JipJ
        Jip
        last edited by

        How is that achieved 🙂 ?

        I personally don't use the minimap or cartographic view in general, but the original appears to be clearer to me then the mapgen version. The contour lines are difficult to see in the mapgen version.

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        • S
          Sheikah
          last edited by

          The scmap has settings for the colors as well as the spacing of the contour lines

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          • S
            Sheikah
            last edited by

            And admittedly it was implemented when the textures of the mapgen weren't as precise as they are now

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            • SaverS
              Saver
              last edited by

              gpg map

              auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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              • F
                FunkOff
                last edited by

                I think the comparison images are unfair because the second image has way more units/structures which obscure the terrain.

                That said, I think I like the mapgen version better. The contour lines on the GPG map are more clear, but elevation isn't important to know. I think the mapgen version makes it more clear which areas are passable by land and which are not, and obviously higher areas are lighter. This is much better.

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                • nine2N
                  nine2
                  last edited by

                  Mapgen 100% and yes the comparison is unfair

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                  • SaverS
                    Saver
                    last edited by

                    @FunkOff OK, that's true too

                    auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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                    • BlackYpsB
                      BlackYps
                      last edited by

                      Thank you for your input. What I got so far is that the contour lines on mapgen maps make it easier to gauge the steepness of the slope. While trying to get better comparison screenshots I noticed that the terrain colors definitely need to be adjusted as they go from white to pure black. If a map has no mountains this happens:
                      Screenshot 2023-12-05 013101.png

                      I'll try adjusting the colors while keeping the contour lines and then I'll be back with some better comparison pics

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                      • nine2N
                        nine2
                        last edited by

                        It would be nice if comparison picks were taken on same map.

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                        • nine2N
                          nine2
                          last edited by nine2

                          Check out the map of Loki here. It's so clear what is going on. https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7573
                          2686f4b6-7625-4808-a88a-78f0e576468a-image.png

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                          • nine2N
                            nine2
                            last edited by

                            The most important thing to show is unpassable cliffs. Height is just a bonus. Water is important too. If you have all that, contour lines are just noise.

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                            • TheVVheelboyT
                              TheVVheelboy
                              last edited by

                              I don't know, this loki map is utter garbage imo. Can't even look at it without having urge to vomit.
                              The Mapgen minimap from the OP is imo the best. Could use some tweaking to show unpassable terrain better, but it's hand's down the best one so far.

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                              • BlackYpsB
                                BlackYps
                                last edited by

                                Here is a mapgen map with the water and ground color adjusted to fit the gpg maps:
                                Screenshot 2023-12-05 150936.png

                                And here is the same map with gpg contour lines for reference:Screenshot 2023-12-05 150702.png

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                                • maudlin27M
                                  maudlin27
                                  last edited by

                                  Mapgen looks significantly better to me based on the latest comparison; I’d suggest editing the op to link to that comparison as I was leaning towards the opposite view based just on the previous mapgen minimaps, and some people may not read the whole thread when responding

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                                  • BlackYpsB
                                    BlackYps
                                    last edited by

                                    The change is now part of the latest mapgen release

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                                      FunkOff @BlackYps
                                      last edited by

                                      @blackyps This shows that the mapgen preview is far better than the GPG contour lines. At least for FAF purposes. (If I were an engineering designing a large structure, I might prefer the contour lines lol)

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                                      • nine2N
                                        nine2
                                        last edited by

                                        That new preview is heavenly

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