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      FunkOff
      last edited by

      I think the comparison images are unfair because the second image has way more units/structures which obscure the terrain.

      That said, I think I like the mapgen version better. The contour lines on the GPG map are more clear, but elevation isn't important to know. I think the mapgen version makes it more clear which areas are passable by land and which are not, and obviously higher areas are lighter. This is much better.

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      • nine2N
        nine2
        last edited by

        Mapgen 100% and yes the comparison is unfair

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        • SaverS
          Saver
          last edited by

          @FunkOff OK, that's true too

          auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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          • BlackYpsB
            BlackYps
            last edited by

            Thank you for your input. What I got so far is that the contour lines on mapgen maps make it easier to gauge the steepness of the slope. While trying to get better comparison screenshots I noticed that the terrain colors definitely need to be adjusted as they go from white to pure black. If a map has no mountains this happens:
            Screenshot 2023-12-05 013101.png

            I'll try adjusting the colors while keeping the contour lines and then I'll be back with some better comparison pics

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            • nine2N
              nine2
              last edited by

              It would be nice if comparison picks were taken on same map.

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              • nine2N
                nine2
                last edited by nine2

                Check out the map of Loki here. It's so clear what is going on. https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7573
                2686f4b6-7625-4808-a88a-78f0e576468a-image.png

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                • nine2N
                  nine2
                  last edited by

                  The most important thing to show is unpassable cliffs. Height is just a bonus. Water is important too. If you have all that, contour lines are just noise.

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                  • TheVVheelboyT
                    TheVVheelboy
                    last edited by

                    I don't know, this loki map is utter garbage imo. Can't even look at it without having urge to vomit.
                    The Mapgen minimap from the OP is imo the best. Could use some tweaking to show unpassable terrain better, but it's hand's down the best one so far.

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                    • BlackYpsB
                      BlackYps
                      last edited by

                      Here is a mapgen map with the water and ground color adjusted to fit the gpg maps:
                      Screenshot 2023-12-05 150936.png

                      And here is the same map with gpg contour lines for reference:Screenshot 2023-12-05 150702.png

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                      • maudlin27M
                        maudlin27
                        last edited by

                        Mapgen looks significantly better to me based on the latest comparison; I’d suggest editing the op to link to that comparison as I was leaning towards the opposite view based just on the previous mapgen minimaps, and some people may not read the whole thread when responding

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                        • BlackYpsB
                          BlackYps
                          last edited by

                          The change is now part of the latest mapgen release

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                            FunkOff @BlackYps
                            last edited by

                            @blackyps This shows that the mapgen preview is far better than the GPG contour lines. At least for FAF purposes. (If I were an engineering designing a large structure, I might prefer the contour lines lol)

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                            • nine2N
                              nine2
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                              That new preview is heavenly

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