Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?
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It is very interesting to me
There is a thread on an old forum about this:
https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18684But the screenshot images are not displayed
So what was the answer?UPDATE:
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Square Enix owns the publishing rights.
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@captainklutz said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
Square Enix owns the publishing rights.
I read that Nordic Games have the rights to publish SC1 and SC:FA
But as far as I know, publication rights do not mean rights to the source code (By source code I mean: source code, models, animations, soundtracks, etc.)
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Correct, these can be traded separately.
Given the fact that rights shifted around multiple times, there is no guarantees who actually holds them. Given the source code is most probably lost I assume the people in the ownership chain didn't care much either.He said, "I've been to the year 3000
Not much has changed, but they live underwater
And your great-great-great-granddaughter
Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF" -
Someone once told me where the code is, but we need permission first. I don't think it's lost
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Oh look, another one of these threads. Didn't we just finish the last one like two weeks ago?
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@brutus5000 So what did Taylor say? Were you in that forum thread and saw what he wrote?
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@nine2 said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
Someone once told me where the code is, but we need permission first. I don't think it's lost
I happened to work on a game project (a mobile game with a small budget) and from my experience interacting with the publisher, I concluded that they would not do anything for free:
Of course, if you find someone who is willing to spend ~$2M (Christ Taylor said in an interview that it would most likely cost several million.) to resolve all copyright issues. This might work
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We could try and go to them and just ask nicely, saying it would be good publicity and citing examples of other publishers giving up the code and how good that turned out. We could point out that FA monthly players are actually growing right now and this might lead to more sales or more interest for an acquisition of the ip for them. I know people have sent emails in the past but you could do it a bit nicer with fancy slides and charts etc. A nice business pitch.
I don't think it's likely to work, but no harm in trying. And we should make the results public so we don't have to do this every 4 years.
What game are you working on
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If you would ever make up a budget instead of dream in the air I'd be happy to go down this road.
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Guys... It's not gonna happen. It wouldn't help much even if it did. People with money have tried before and it didn't happen then, it's not going to happen now. Just search the old forums and stop making this thread every week.
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These threads should be locked unless someone has 7 figures of money
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There's nothing in the source code that you can't just google how it works and find an equivalent or better solution right now.
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@nine2 said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
What game are you working on
Secret information ). (our team was a contractor for manual testing of one of the wargaming games. I was an project manager on the project.)
@nine2 said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
We could try and go to them and just ask nicely, saying it would be good publicity and citing examples of other publishers giving up the code and how good that turned out.
I'm not interested in the source code. It would be better if they make a remaster that fixes the main problems.
There is a chance that everything is now in the hands of Embracer
@nine2 said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
I know people have sent emails in the past but you could do it a bit nicer with fancy slides and charts etc. A nice business pitch.
Great idea. Don't want to do this? It’s better to ask for a remaster and indicate in the presentation how they will return all the money invested). This is a more realistic option.
@redx said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
Guys... It's not gonna happen.
Are you talking about transferring the source code? Yes, I completely agree with you. This will never happen.
But I think the chances of a remaster being released are much higher)
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@nflanders said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
There is a chance that everything is now in the hands of Embracer
It's not, I asked them at the time of that purchase and they confirmed Supcom was not one of the IPs in that transaction.
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I would think the odds are a master would be even lower than the odds of a source code release. Maybe I am not fully aware of the economic forces behind this franchise, but I cannot imagine there being enough of a market to justify remastering this game.
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@deribus thanks for the info
here it is stated that CRYSTAL DYNAMICS does not own IP SupCom. But this does not exclude the possibility that the rights were acquired.From the official Embracer website:
"Embracer Group AB (”Embracer”) has entered into an agreement to acquire the development studios Crystal Dynamics, Eidos-Montréal, Square Enix Montréal, and a catalogue of IPs including Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, Thief, Legacy of Kain and more than 50 back-catalogue games from SQUARE ENIX HOLDINGS CO., LTD."
A maximum of 10 franchises have been confirmed, but the official website claims another 50 games from the Square Enix catalog.
In this Reddit thread, in one of the comments, the user refers to an insider from Square Enix.
https://www.reddit.com/r/supremecommander/comments/ugyetz/embracer_group_to_acquire_eidos_crystal_dynamics/ -
@nflanders I heard it was my fathers brothers older cousins room mate that obtained the code by bar room kumite brawl fight! Some still say he is still Champion and holder of the code "The Final Boss If You Will." His weakness is a Bionic Elbow To The Head or Dempsey Roll......The Bionic Dempsey Roll Elbow!
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@redx said in Who owns the rights to the SC:FA source code?:
Maybe I am not fully aware of the economic forces behind this franchise, but I cannot imagine there being enough of a market to justify remastering this game.
Interesting fact, a lot of people talked about how terrible Supremme Commander 2 turned out, but if you look at the graphs, the popularity of SC:FA was not much more than SC2. If you look at the graph, this was the case until approximately June 2022. I'm wondering what's causing this online growth in SC:FA in 2022?
