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    • FtXCommandoF Offline
      FtXCommando
      last edited by

      Faction diversity should stem from solving issues the faction faces in a unique fashion. Faction diversity because “why not lol” can have a logical extreme of giving everyone everything because “why not lol” and make it identical to removing all fun in the game via lazy balancing.

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      • ComradeStrykerC Offline
        ComradeStryker @FtXCommando
        last edited by

        @ftxcommando said in Aeon Gun ACU:

        Faction diversity should stem from solving issues the faction faces in a unique fashion.

        I completely agree with you.
        Though, with uniqueness comes imbalance - regardless of how much adjustment someone may do.
        And this is why, unfortunately, we're facing that exact issue here.

        I doubt the range would ever be 'balanced' or 'fair', due to many, many factors.
        But at least, we as players, are trying to offer feedback to help place said unit in a fair and more balanced position.


        Faction diversity because “why not lol” can have a logical extreme of giving everyone everything because “why not lol” and make it identical to removing all fun in the game via lazy balancing.

        Is that not one of the reasons why this post exists? To avoid lazy balancing?
        We're here to discuss what can be done - to get more viewpoints from players, no?
        I fail to see how this could classify as lazy balancing.


        ~ Stryker

        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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        • FtXCommandoF Offline
          FtXCommando
          last edited by

          I don't consider removing a needless upgrade to be lazy balancing because I don't see any purpose the upgrade serves beyond making Aeon stronger in their strongest game segment. I already suggested that if any faction needs the increased range utility it would be Cybran. Lazy balancing would be equalizing aurora to every other tank rather than something like the lab/blaze change which gives Aeon an out for a weakness they have in a unique way.

          If no one can name a weakness in Aeon that gun range is there for, it's just there just because it is. At which point, just give it to Cybran anyway.

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          • MazorNoobM Offline
            MazorNoob
            last edited by

            Can we just revert Aeon T2 to what it used to be?

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            • veteranasheV Offline
              veteranashe
              last edited by

              Aeon t2 used to be skipped entirely so you have to be more specific

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              • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
                Zeldafanboy
                last edited by

                💩💩💩

                put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                • T Offline
                  TheWreck
                  last edited by

                  lol aeon t2 strongest in the game? best t2 air and best t2 land

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                  • Sylph_S Offline
                    Sylph_
                    last edited by

                    How about making the aeon sniper ACU require a 'sniper mode' akin to the seraphim sniper bot? Ie, something that slows the commander's move speed down dramatically?

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                    • RoweyR Offline
                      Rowey
                      last edited by

                      In Beta, the Range Upgrade for the ACu is Split into 2 Upgrades

                      "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                      • Rodimus_PrimeR Offline
                        Rodimus_Prime
                        last edited by Rodimus_Prime

                        Edit: Just did the math. Aeon gun is now double the cost (both mass and energy) of other guns for a whole 5 meters, which is silly.

                        I am not fond of this change. 5 meters is not a lot, and already requires significant attention & micro to utilize. The synergy with Chrono is admittedly cool, but the cost of the second range upgrade is way too high.

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                        • TheVVheelboyT Offline
                          TheVVheelboy
                          last edited by

                          Lol.

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                          • DeribusD Offline
                            Deribus Global Moderator @Rodimus_Prime
                            last edited by

                            @immortal-d said in Aeon Gun ACU:

                            5 meters is not a lot,

                            Then don't get the 2nd upgrade

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                            • FtXCommandoF Offline
                              FtXCommando
                              last edited by

                              5 meters makes it impossible for bricks and percies to kill a shielded aeon gun acu

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                              • Rodimus_PrimeR Offline
                                Rodimus_Prime @Deribus
                                last edited by

                                @deribus said in Aeon Gun ACU:

                                @immortal-d said in Aeon Gun ACU:

                                5 meters is not a lot,

                                Then don't get the 2nd upgrade

                                Your response tells me that you're the kind of player who makes newbies want to quit after 1 round.

                                @ftxcommando said in Aeon Gun ACU:

                                5 meters makes it impossible for bricks and percies to kill a shielded aeon gun acu

                                They can't catch the ACU, but neither can it stop retreating if a significant group of said units is pushing.

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                                • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                  FtXCommando
                                  last edited by

                                  Problem is Aeon is really good at dealing with significant groups of percies, and them being able to get those 5 meters for free pretty much makes it impossible to punish stupid aggressive ACUs with the tool that is supposed to be able to do it via land. Snipers don't have the problem, percies and bricks do.

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                                  • Rodimus_PrimeR Offline
                                    Rodimus_Prime
                                    last edited by

                                    That's fair. I suppose I don't see that often at ~1400 range, as stupidly aggressive Coms tend to die to a combined Gunship & Strat attack.

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                                    • MylaurM Offline
                                      Mylaur @phong
                                      last edited by

                                      @phong For what it's worth I'm learning some stuff by reading the arguments provided. 🙂

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                                      • ? Offline
                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        I was also not happy with the cost of the additional 5 meters, but then I remembered that I use Aeon ACU as a mobile defensive overcharge turret hiding under shields late game dealing up to 15k damage to land units from 35 units away (colossus is 40), and... whatever, let it be. Additional testing will show if that's the proper cost.

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