@chisato this same issue would persist if literally any 1200 cared enough to look at a high level game on any 20km map and copy their build order: they would crush a 1200 without one
I understand complaints about game length/sim lag, but cutting out setons because some are better at it than others is just kind of sad. It's like setoners arguing that wonder open (popular 10km land map !) needs to be permanently removed because they're at a disadvantage there
besides all this im not against limiting setons to 1500+ or 1800+