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    • FtXCommandoF Offline
      FtXCommando
      last edited by Deribus

      In order to provide some structure to balance threads and make things easier on the OP, the participants, and moderators themselves, I've decided to create a benchmark for threads. This benchmark should be followed in order for a thread to not be removed due to a lack of material to warrant any sort of meaningful discussion. Why is this necessary? Because currently a lot of the balance forum is reading more like a general tips & gameplay subforum where basic stats or unit relations need to be explained to people. This is meant to flush out a lot of the low effort posting around here. People that repeatedly break the rules here may face a general forum ban.

      Opening Post Structure:

      • Some Sort of Ethos
        No you do not need to be 2k in ladder and global with 1000 games while somehow managing to play every map on the vault. However, it is beneficial to explain things like what kind of games you prefer to play, the maps you tend to play, even just something about what direction you want FAF to move towards gameplay wise. This is mainly intended as a way for you to be able to identify your own bias as a poster and allow posters from other areas of experience to input their own viewpoint. For example, I'm pretty much entirely a teamgame player and first and foremost most of my ideas/criticisms are going to revolve around how they impact 2v2-4v4 games.

      • Identify a Problem
        This should be either a problem in base FAF or FAF Beta (please identify which and please do not include sim mod issues here). For example, explain how t2 torps are somewhat overtuned in naval combat and a slight nerf would enable healthier gameplay.

      • Showcase the Problem
        The opening post of all balance threads must contain a replay of one of the following:
        A) Ranked game showing issue
        B) Gameplay of mod with proposed fix
        C) Sandbox testing showing issue
        Any posts not meeting this restriction will be immediately locked.

      • Find a Solution
        Look into the unit. Look at the values it has. Find some sort of statistic change that could accomplish addressing your problem with as minimal indirect harm to other elements of FAF. Yes, minimal. There are very few things that can be done that would not involve harming some sort of game situation.

      • Justify the Solution
        Do not just say "do x." Explain why you would need to adjust this stat. Why this stat or stats specifically? What is the intended result of the solution? Are there any possible indirect problems?

      This should give not only threads a reason to be read by members of the balance team, but it should also improve the general discourse between people on the subforum. If there is a flaw in someone's argument segment, it will be much easier to pinpoint it and address it constructively rather than the flailing around going around now.

      To repeat, threads that do not meet the structure of this post (from this point on) are liable to be removed.

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      • ArranA Offline
        Arran
        last edited by

        Showcase the Problem, Part D. biass and Dragun101 created a thread on how to make a sim mod to showcase your solution in a real game.
        https://forum.faforever.com/topic/739/guide-creating-a-basic-balance-mod-with-a-merge-blueprint

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        • F Offline
          FunkOff
          last edited by

          You should make a rule prohibiting this sort of ad hominem nonsense that makes no attempt to address the information provided.
          "I'm assuming OP just lost a game and is mad because he thinks he lost to the balance."

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          • DeribusD Offline
            Deribus Global Moderator
            last edited by

            The "Showcasing the problem" section has been modified and streamlined, please be aware of this change to the rules

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