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Proposal: Paragon Innate Energy Storage

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    Hildegard
    last edited by Hildegard 8 Mar 2021, 09:51 3 Aug 2021, 09:50

    OP makes his point very clearly. What are you guys arguing about? Paragon description clearly states it generates "infinite resources". Both energy and mass production have their limits at 1 million and 10k respectively. It's very clearly not a "gameplay mechanic" for Paragon to not keep up with energy expenditure as long as the expenditure is within its production limits. What good is 1 million energy production for if your energy immediately spikes from a meager 50k expenditure to 0, flipping all your shields offline (perhaps even under mavor fire), because the production doesn't respond quickly enough? Energy storages alleviate the issue or very nearly eliminate it, but I've had experiences when paragon lets even a 350k storage deplete entirely before catching up. Game devs are notorious casuals when it comes to playtesting, and I believe its plausible to imagine they simply assumed it works fast enough as they clicked 100 engineers with their boomer fingers to build random buildings. It's a relatively minor issue but nonetheless an issue. It's not a "gameplay mechanic" for Paragon to require copious building space for rows of energy storages, especially in some rare 1v4 tower defense situations.

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      biass
      last edited by 3 Aug 2021, 12:34

      I also don’t think pre-building energy storages to deal with an unworking game system is an intended game mechanic. I would support some extra storage to compensate.

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        Dragun101
        last edited by 3 Aug 2021, 16:22

        As a reminder do rememeber as Paragon was initially envision engineers, factories and such gave innate energy storage. So Paragon having inbuilt storage was less needed

        I’m a shitty 1k Global. Any balance or gameplay suggestions should be understood or taken as such.

        Project Head and current Owner/Manager of SCTA Project

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          Tagada Balance Team
          last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 13:39

          Made a PR, will be considered for the next patch.
          https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/3409

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            CPTANT
            last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 16:07

            I don't get what's wrong with just building some more energy storages, you have infinite resources, what is stopping you?

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              FemtoZetta @CPTANT
              last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 16:14

              cptant said in Proposal: Paragon Innate Energy Storage:

              I don't get what's wrong with just building some more energy storages, you have infinite resources, what is stopping you?

              I don't get what's wrong with just adding storage to the Paragon, you have infinite resources, why should you have to build a separate building only because of the game engine's limitation?

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                Zeldafanboy @CPTANT
                last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 23:48

                @cptant

                I’d imagine engie pathing and build range would be an annoyance in a late game base capable of even attempting to construct a Paragon. This is purely a qol change.

                put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                  Skrat
                  last edited by 10 Sept 2021, 22:38

                  if you build a paragon you can find a mass for 20-30 energy storage

                  Sorry for my English. I use translator

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                    Arran
                    last edited by 23 Sept 2021, 11:38

                    Alternative proposal. Have paragon permanently output its maximum generation. There will be no spike, teammates will benefit, the storage issue will be solved and everyone will be happy.

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                      Tagada Balance Team
                      last edited by 23 Sept 2021, 12:56

                      That would be a huge buff to the Paragon, rejected.

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                        KaletheQuick
                        last edited by 23 Sept 2021, 13:26

                        Nah. Aeon is kinda about that kind of planning, forethought, and single unit specialization.

                        Not to mention the required volatile external storage is a weakness that can be attacked, making your turtling under a paragon alone far less useful.

                        You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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