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    Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense

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    • C Offline
      chunky
      last edited by

      I think drawing a game is fine, if you are lesser rated you should gain points for the draw as you had a lower chance to win (as seen by the bot).

      Salvaging a lost game by a draw still requires planning and execution and shows that the opponent wasnt properly defending their acu.

      Calling it a bug is misleading as in my view a shortstacking player securing a draw should gain some rating.

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      • FtXCommandoF Offline
        FtXCommando
        last edited by

        The bug is that a draw counts as a win not that a draw happens. It’s a bug on how the client reports game results to the server.

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        • arma473A Offline
          arma473
          last edited by

          Has this "draw bug" been fixed?

          Game #15535906 - it appears to be ranked as a win (I gained 15 rating, my opponent lost 13 rating)

          I wasn't trying to exploit the draw bug. I thought they fixed it.

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          • AskaholicA Offline
            Askaholic
            last edited by

            Nope it hasn’t

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            • K Offline
              keyser
              last edited by

              the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

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              • NOC-N Offline
                NOC-
                last edited by

                This whole idea is idiotic.
                The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                Ras Boi's save lives.

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                • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
                  Zeldafanboy @NOC-
                  last edited by

                  @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                  This whole idea is idiotic.
                  The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                  If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                  see

                  @ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                  The bug is that a draw counts as a win not that a draw happens. It’s a bug on how the client reports game results to the server.

                  put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                  • AskaholicA Offline
                    Askaholic @keyser
                    last edited by

                    @keyser said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                    the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

                    Well there wasn’t really a fix. The “fix” was to revert the fixes for the games being unrated, therefore making them unrated again 😅.

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                    • arma473A Offline
                      arma473 @NOC-
                      last edited by

                      @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                      This whole idea is idiotic.
                      The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                      If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                      We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

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                      • MoraxM Offline
                        Morax @arma473
                        last edited by

                        @arma473 said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                        @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                        This whole idea is idiotic.
                        The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                        If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                        We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

                        That is not exactly true: if someone knowingly does it you can have it reviewed; if someone does it add does not realize one should not be punished.

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                        • JipJ Offline
                          Jip
                          last edited by Jip

                          I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

                          A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                          • MoraxM Offline
                            Morax @Jip
                            last edited by Morax

                            @jip said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                            I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

                            It’s already been decided. This thread is over six months old.

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                            • FtXCommandoF Offline
                              FtXCommando
                              last edited by

                              There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

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                              • MoraxM Offline
                                Morax @FtXCommando
                                last edited by Morax

                                @ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                                There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

                                See above, read the whole thread.

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                                • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                  FtXCommando
                                  last edited by

                                  I see Swkoll saying he would theoretically handle reports and Tex and Resistance saying it shouldn't be bannable. I also see no real arguments for how a ban on it would be enforced but a lot of arguments about why it's just a recipe for issues.

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                                  • MoraxM Offline
                                    Morax
                                    last edited by

                                    You’re missing some key points, but the regardless it’s a heavily frowned upon act to use intentionally.

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                                    • TheVVheelboyT Offline
                                      TheVVheelboy
                                      last edited by

                                      Lame

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                                      • BlackYpsB Offline
                                        BlackYps
                                        last edited by

                                        What key points? You can't make something bannable based on if it is done intentionally, because you can't know for sure if somebody is aware of the bug. Also, if you want to punish people for it, it should really be listed in the official rules.

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                                        • ResistanceR Offline
                                          Resistance
                                          last edited by

                                          it won't be listed in the official rules cause it's not bannable,chill

                                          queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                          • BlackYpsB Offline
                                            BlackYps
                                            last edited by

                                            I am. I was just replying to Morax that seemed to be under the impression that it is already forbidden. And it not being listed there convinces me of the opposite.

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