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    Proposal for [Challenge Accounts] | Feedback Wanted!

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    • BanthaFodderB
      BanthaFodder
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      I'm with Brutus. You don't need a second account for this.

      Alternatively, allow everyone to create a second account that is linked to your main account somehow. Like how you can see previous names of a player, you can see other accounts. That way everyone can participate in challenges or whatever. Not just a select few content creators.

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      • waffelzNoobW
        waffelzNoob
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        I already do challenges on my main account occasionally, not as extreme as engineer only, but its probably frustrating anyway for a new player to play a handicapped pro for the pro's enjoyment. I think this idea should be limited to 0 to x series

        frick snoops!

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        • IndexLibrorumI
          IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @BanthaFodder
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          @xclkvnspoijfoisn said in Proposal for [Challenge Accounts] | Feedback Wanted!:

          Alternatively, allow everyone to create a second account that is linked to your main account somehow. Like how you can see previous names of a player, you can see other accounts. That way everyone can participate in challenges or whatever. Not just a select few content creators.

          We do not believe this is an option. Challenge accounts will always affect normal games, because they must use very unconventional playstyles. Allowing a limitless number of these accounts. with challenges that haven't been vetted for how disruptive they are, will only lead to chaos.

          One of the core parts of this proposal that we want feedback on is how to allow something like this while minimally disrupting normal gameplay. Allowing only a few of these accounts at a time, with vetted challenges and on new accounts so that their rating actually reflects the strength of that account are a few ways we think we may achieve that. Creating a new account is essential to make that work.

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            Vindex @IndexLibrorum
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            @IndexLibrorum is it possible to unrank games where a challenge account is present?

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            • ZLOZ
              ZLO
              last edited by ZLO

              i want second account to play at 20 APM and see how much rating i can get with that challenge

              Edit: i actually did that already and not 100% remember exactly what happened but probably account got banned, but there also were weird technical issues that i can't even explain (somehow i got two accounts on 1 email and account had to be deleted or something like that)

              Also i have been trying challenge of winning while pretending to be AFK
              Basically you start by rushing drone or a transport and fly away with engineers and reclaim your whole base and move commander back to spawn spot and make it face right way

              pray that opponent does not notice decals on the ground left by all the structures and when you make a proxy base and play from there while pretending to be AFK with your commander.
              it is very hard to win against anyone at all with that strategy and you need suitable map for that

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              • IndexLibrorumI
                IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @Vindex
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                @Vindex I am unsure if this is possible to do automatically. However, I'm not sure if allowing challenge accounts to only play unranked matches is a good idea. The general idea is that they are still viable players after all, just at a much decreased rating than the original player's rating.

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                  Stin
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                  Would it be possible to force challenge accounts to all have their main username with a separater character and followed by a challenge clan tag suffix? This way everyone would know who they are and that they're a challenge account and decide whether they would like to participate under such circumstances?

                  E.g. Stin is my main account and the challenge account must be Stin_CHAL.
                  '_' is the separater and CHAL is the clan tag.

                  You'd probably have to filter _CHAL from usernames to prevent deliberate misrepresentation.

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                  • IndexLibrorumI
                    IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @Stin
                    last edited by IndexLibrorum

                    @Stin It's an idea we were playing with too, although I am not sure yet whether or not its a good idea to show the original player's name or not.

                    Since the feedback has kind of stopped now, when I have time I will combine it all and see what we've got so far, then come back with a more concrete concept.

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                    • StrydxrS
                      Strydxr Team Lead
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                      I think Challenge accounts are beneficial to FAF IF they are moderated heavily, as they can almost relieve the stress of alt accounts if done properly. I know the Trainer Team can utilize this concept very well and create a lot of long lasting training material. I would also happily take full responsibility for the trainer team's use of challenge accounts.

                      Also, Challenge accounts don't have to be given out willy nilly, they can have a vetting process done by either mods or a chosen committee, which may help with keeping track of them.

                      Overall, it's a good concept, and the fact we have such a diverse group of opinions shows me that if done right, it can be very good for FAF.

                      Mods, can we ban this guy?

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                      • IndexLibrorumI
                        IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @Strydxr
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                        @Strydxr said in Proposal for [Challenge Accounts] | Feedback Wanted!:

                        Also, Challenge accounts don't have to be given out willy nilly, they can have a vetting process done by either mods or a chosen committee, which may help with keeping track of them.

                        This is one part the moderation team think is critical for this kind of account to work. If we wouldn't limit the accounts to a very low number and allowed whatever challenge, it would just be smurfing with extra steps. And the consequences of that wouldn't weigh up to the potentional benefits.

                        In any case, I've read all of the responses to this thread and I'm waiting for some free time to properly collate them all and discuss it with the moderation team. I hope to soon be able to share a more fleshed out concept, or maybe even an announcement for a trial run (if our internal discussion concludes with us thinking this could work).

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