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What is going on with FAF?

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    FtXCommando
    last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 01:21

    Play dual gap as a 4v4 and these problems halve themselves or more.

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      Defiant
      last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 02:51

      Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

      A web service is not the same as FAF, but maybe the same practice of using a WAF could be used.
      Could we pay to host servers on cloudfare or similar?
      Could we increase the number of servers to reduce DDOS?
      Could we ride on some other network layer which has protections?

      Please don't feel anyone should answer these directly, they are more rhetroical, uninformed ideas. My point is if we can solve this by using other available technologies.

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        Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin @Defiant
        last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 07:56

        @defiant said in What is going on with FAF?:

        Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

        This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
        But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

        He said, "I've been to the year 3000
        Not much has changed, but they live underwater
        And your great-great-great-granddaughter
        Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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          MostLostNoob @Brutus5000
          last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 18:54

          @brutus5000 said in What is going on with FAF?:

          This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
          But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

          Could the issue with the Global Coturn server be that the other Coturn servers (Germany 1, Finland, US East & any others that I just can't see) are still online & selectable in the client, so not everybody is using only the Global Coturn which would result in the evaluation of the performance of using that 3rd party provider solution not being measured accurately?

          Should all Coturn servers except the Global one be shutdown while the DDOS attacks are still ongoing so that only the Global one with the added protection can be used?

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            Sheikah
            last edited by Sheikah 16 Feb 2024, 20:03

            We did try that for a bit but the bandwidth costs started to explode in unexpected ways so we turned the others back on.

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              MostLostNoob
              last edited by MostLostNoob 16 Feb 2024, 20:27

              😞

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                DonDraper
                last edited by 17 Feb 2024, 08:41

                CALL THE FBI AND REPORT THE DDOS. GET SOME FUCKING HELP FROM MICROSOFT. DO FUCKING SOMETHING!

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                  Supernova16 @DonDraper
                  last edited by 17 Feb 2024, 09:06

                  @dondraper My man, it looks like they are doings things, it just hasn't worked out quite like they wanted it to.

                  What exactly do you expect the FBI or Microsoft to do for DDoS attacks against a game like this? I love FAF, but it's not like its critical infrastructure. I'm sure they're doing their best with the tools and resources at their disposal.

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                    Reckless_Charger
                    last edited by Reckless_Charger 17 Feb 2024, 10:01

                    Umm I'm sure FBI has better things to do than combating DDOS attacks on ancient multiplayer game (played by a couple of thousand people at best) based in foreign (non-US) country being attacked by actors likely from another foreign country.

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                      DonDraper @Supernova16
                      last edited by 19 Feb 2024, 20:49

                      @supernova16 What it looks like is its been 9-12 months of the SSDD approach. Why not try rolling back to a build from 2 years ago. Why not try scrapping the connection system taht crutches some players who cant see each other?

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                        BlackYps
                        last edited by 19 Feb 2024, 22:17

                        Scrapping the Internet? That's a bold suggestion

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by 21 Feb 2024, 18:17

                          Well, I am officially tired of disconnects and moving to other games

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                            StormLantern Team Lead @DonDraper
                            last edited by 21 Feb 2024, 21:50

                            @dondraper

                            What have you done to help, mr. angry man?

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                              Reckless_Charger
                              last edited by 22 Feb 2024, 12:24

                              Don't you know shouting at people gets things done...

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                                DonDraper @StormLantern
                                last edited by 22 Feb 2024, 15:28

                                @stormlantern Better to be angry and see a solution eventually than pensive and putting up with this horseshit for the better part of the year since I was banned a good SIX FUCKING MONTHS came back and the situation is worse than it was. So please blame it on me.

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                                  StormLantern Team Lead
                                  last edited by 22 Feb 2024, 18:31

                                  But you also "put up with it", like the rest of us. So you are angry+put up with it. I don't think that is much better, no.

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                                    IAmCupCakes
                                    last edited by 24 Feb 2024, 18:02

                                    Im very happy that you guys are trying so hard to fix these connection issues.
                                    But im also very sad that this is the current situation that we are facing.

                                    And so im a little bit of a sad panda, who just uses faf to relax and unwind.

                                    But please, remember that even though some people dont express their frustration in helpful ways, there are also people, who just love this game and are absolutely awestruck at the dedication you guys put into this community... Thank you for continuing to try to fix this. I hope you find the perfect solution 🙂

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                                      Dorset
                                      last edited by 24 Feb 2024, 18:25

                                      Despite all this bullshit FAF is still worth the trouble and I will play it no matter the trouble. I am sure Sanctuary will be great but I highly doubt it will capture my attention the way FAF has and my hope is that FAF is around for another 20 years. I hope others choose to fight through the pain too rather than move to a different game. After reading this whole thread I think the best thing to do is donate to FAF rather than quit.

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                                        IAmCupCakes @Dorset
                                        last edited by 24 Feb 2024, 18:27

                                        @dorset Good point! I will do that 🙂

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                                          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
                                          last edited by 24 Feb 2024, 18:43

                                          Please guys. If you want to donate for the cause of FAF that is fine. But don't donate and expect and problems to be resolved in return. This is not something we can guarantee.

                                          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                                          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                                          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                                          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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