Stealthed asf doesn’t give Cyb an advantage against anybody except incompetent players. By default you should be screening your ASF with spy planes for intel, Cybran just has the ability to cause that to harm you with an even worse first engagement than the other factions.

I have never picked Cybran for air since the strat bomber adjustment, they’re equivalent to UEF for me and Aeon is just obviously the superior faction.

Game balance is not about a unit being seen in 15% of games. Absolver carries insane utility against elements like shielded acus as well as breaking firebases alongside winning sniper vs sniper engagements while also being insanely powerful in the aeon vs aeon mirror. There is no need for the unit to need an increase in utility.

Yes, titan is fine. Titan trades pretty fairly with ilshies which should be the expectation for t3 raid bots. The problem with loyas is that they totally slaughter units like ilshies and obsidians when they shouldn’t. I don’t actually have much of a problem with titan vs loya balance and think titans trade well if you micro them properly to take advantage of the shield recharge. You aren’t supposed to just sandbox and charge them into one another and conclude loyalists are OP, that’s not how titans are supposed to fight them.

Nomander’s arguments in the github thread actually involve numerics about the game not just throwing out “you need like a million engies to deal with a mavor and uh then a 2nd mavor is up before u finish ur paragon” or talking about shielding/supporting shielding of ur air grid against a mavor because killing it means you can now strat the para. This isn’t how game ender scenarios play. Neither you nor Robo seem to realize how easy it is to spend 10k mass and how quickly 10k mass a second becomes insurmountable in a game where having 15% more mass invested in anything that your opponent is doing means you win regardless of micro/positioning.

I change my mind downvotes need to be removed right now

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No I’m not. You don’t understand what a substitute good is and that for it to work, it still requires a price. If money is the substitute good, it’s bought. That’s what it is. Are you describing the avatar Pepsi got as a gift unrelated to the prize money? If not, the two are obviously related, nobody is even denying it.

If avatars can’t be bought, the situation above is arbitrary and shouldn’t have happened. Because it’s really just NOC deciding based on his personal vibes that day what is worth a personal avatar. Coherent principles aka a price needs to be established for transparency and fairness. You can argue about who is allowed to buy it or what money is allowed to be used, but it’s still a good with a price.

I really don’t care to look into anything for you lol

@blackyps said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

@ftxcommando said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

the situation above is arbitrary and shouldn’t have happened. Because it’s really just NOC deciding based on his personal vibes that day what is worth a personal avatar.

That's a pretty good description of what happened.

There is a thread in the promo-public channel on discord now that discusses avatar rules. All input is welcome.

I don’t think so. I put equivalent if not more fault on the Board for making a terrible ruling to save themselves a little bit of duress which in turn put NOC in a totally losing situation where he tried to give some sort of compensation. Only problem on NOC’s end was not working out the details.

Little bit of a false dichotomy going on with this “net good vs net evil” when the whole situation exists because a ledger of reserved, illiquid funds is too much work for those few players. It’s really more like the needs of those few players isn’t worth a single hour a week of time of like 1 of 7 different Board members, which is a big deal for NOC’s position.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

This will help u learn how to define when things are OP. Every single billy generally equates to 5 broadswords. If you think 5 broadswords is worse than a billy you’re not based in reality. The only conclusion I have left is skill issue because the only way a player could grasp this conclusion as tenable is that they have their air factories set as a rally point into the enemy back base.

Is billy bad? No, there are game circumstances where it is the correct option within its price category. But in the vast majority of game states, you’d be better off just dumping 5 air facs worth of air into the game, building a land t4 (not fatboy), building a washer, or building a nuke.

@Arran

no

I’m not saying FAF should work to breach the law, my solution was still to reserve the funds while providing in kind services as options for people that don’t feel like waiting.

Though I also feel like the “waiting” isn’t really a necessary condition and the transfer of FAF money for a service should be viable for anyone that wins FAF money.

Losing a t2 mex to win the loya reclaim is worth the trade. Especially since if the loya is just sitting there doing damage to the mex I could have gotten free damage in on the loya with said titan.

Why is your ACU unsupported exploring the world at t3 stage. I used to do shield + gun + t3 acu as a support for titan spam that arrives later to deal with the now sizable enemy t3 army and build a firebase. I would love it if my ACU gets swarmed because now i can converge all my titans there and get a giant reclaim pile to snowball with. Possible because of the speed advantage allowing me to dictate when to take a good fight, and that’s why titan spam was meta back then.

Far greater? I doubt it. Maybe lose like 1-2 more. Nobody is charging loyalists into harbs/othuums.

@indexlibrorum said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

@ftxcommando said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

Money is transferable to avatars now and that needs to get explained.

Avatars being an alternative prize does not mean that avatars can be bought for money. Quite a jump of logic there.

Please read what I wrote and realize that I put in the question of whether only FAF provided prize funds can be used for the purpose.

In 9 out of 10 cases you say? Pretty crazy I was winning games with pure titan spam 2 years ago before they got their bt changed then. I think you’re confusing you deciding to not retreat them with you can’t retreat them. Can’t believe I’m losing my mexes and reclaim over a 15 second shield recharge time, pretty insane gameplay I must be in. I thought you just mentioned how fast titans are why am I simply being killed now? They can just run away, even against loya since you should be hovering around max range anyway.

Titans have a huge speed advantage against ilshies, you should trade equivalently when you are playing terribly and just walk them into the literal t2.5 assault bot. Harbs and othuums crush titans? They crush loya too, I don’t get it.

Titan got renerfed after everyone realized it was worth making and went back to its old statline with the bt. Loya got another buff because it was still seen as too bad relative to titan. It needs to revert back to titan because titan is the normalized level a t3 raid bot should be, loyalists are just too strong against the top end of t2 thanks to its dual stun tools. It’s fine against titan in terms of dps, titans just require more micro to stand up to them which is fine, bricks need more micro to stand up to percies too.

Normal move command obeys the collision box, subs aren’t any different

If you fully remove all collision then things like tempest are monstrously op because you now need to manually babysit everything so you don’t take quintuple dps from a random tempest or bs or exodus shot when you didn’t intend it.

I don’t really see how you could arrive at the conclusion that it’s false hope when nobody, even higher level officials, are going to be predicting the results of the current offensive let alone the situation in a year. I hear any and everything from both sides. But it’s off topic and we don’t need to get into it.

There should have been a general adjustment of how things are going to work if the Board has decided that Russia is now North Korea. If avatars are being given as some barter equivalent to prize money, then there needs to be rules ironed out about how much money equates to an avatar and whether only FAF official prize money is capable of being spent on said good. Doing this in dms without any rules set up as NOC did clarifies nothing for anybody, really. Even if gieb and whoever else is involved. Money is transferable to avatars now and that needs to get explained.

I would personally have given people the option of having funds reserved or transferring it into some sort of service ie avatars as long as it matches some criteria set up by the tournament team. I think the “complexity” argument is quite silly, the account ledgers for FAF are not that complicated where this is an insurmountable obstacle.

Paying 10k more mass for equivalent units is not moot, by this logic late game costs for anything don’t need to follow any expectations and we could just make UEF t3 arty cost 8k more mass because it’s moot

That exact same ambiguity exists for any other way of ending the game (left without consulting the team, flew his ACU into enemy air, went afk) except these are not defaulted to a ban but base ctrl+k is.

If you ask your team if they want to play on and nobody does, who cares how you ended the game? If somebody says they changed their mind, why didn’t they say they wanted to play on in the chat when asked?

Shouldn’t the ban be for leaving a game without asking anybody? Isn’t that what recall ultimately is built on? Why are you banning a hypothetical person that achieved exactly that but decided he wanted to end it with base ctrl+k instead of hitting the leave button? Is that really the thing to be prioritizing here?

Nothing in the Board’s statements say or carry any weight related to the decision to refuse to hold the money until it was capable to send it. The refusal to do that was completely on them and made everything needlessly more complicated.

yeah you’d be better off suggesting to just delete the upgrade with these suggestions

If you think floating 10k e is normal and expected behavior I think I found the reason for game loss and it had nothing to do with billy. Personally I never float above 2000 e at any moment as an air player and that would only be for maybe 20 seconds as another air fac finishes.

Nice comparison with Cyb laser, did you forget it’s 315k e to to build the launcher and 315k e to build the first billy and then 315k e to build every subsequent billy?

buff aeon bros…. they aren’t top 2 in everything….

Things wrong with this post:
blud is losing the equivalent of 50 harbs to 1 billy, have u tried not shift+g’ing ur army and leaving it idle

Billy has 4 HP, TML has 2 hp, 1 tmd kills a tml

TMD is 250 mass, billy is 3000 mass (each) + upgrade

Every billy is the e cost of a gc on top of that

You could support 5 air facs spamming nothing but t3 gunships for the relative cost of billy (10,000 e and 100 mass a second on a t3 ACU)

Stop playing lobbies where the game was won 8 minutes ago and people are choosing which flavor to win the game with and basing your takes on them.