RCIII - Civilians ~ 3v3 ~ $1,200

muchstuff · 27 Jan 2021, 20:31

@cocAurico As someone who has an active AI on vault, I can assure you that the updates are not going to be noticed. Updates this late in the game are not for the implementation of some game winning/full proof strategy, they are fixing small bugs, etc. The bugs dont crop up from the moment the game starts, they might only crop up in a certain situation, when a certain platoon or threat warning is triggered. You wouldn't want, as an example, the AI near your opponent having a major bug issue and imploding, and the one near you ready to kick ass. It goes without saying that you would want that AI fixed. As for the preparing part against the AI. They are adaptive, and when you add another human team in there, or even alter the races, their gameplay can change. So what you feel and see now might not be what you feel and see when the tournament starts, not because of an update, but because the AI is allocating its resources to fight a constantly changing threat. And since you cannot predict/know how the other human team is going to react, you will not be able to naildown/recreate the AI style. I think you should trust, that whatever updates happen, it is for the benefit of all involved.

Dro · 27 Jan 2021, 21:04

sign me up if someone drops

Fearghal · 27 Jan 2021, 23:14

@Dro said in Rainbow Cup III ~ 3 v 3 ~ $1.2K:

sign me up if someone drops

There are multiple players who have asked to be put on the standby list since the draft period ended.
So, I am reopening the tournament to new players who would like a "chance" to play.
Players who wish to play will be put on a "Restricted" Standby list
and have an opportunity to play.
The way the Standby list and the Restricted Standby list will work, is as follows:

ANY player on the pre draft - Standby list can fill in for anyone no matter the rating differential.
A player on the 'restricted' standby list can Only fill in for a player with a higher rating.
See list of players on standby and restricted standby here:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/858/rainbow-cup-iii-3-v-3-1-2k/2

ie: A 1640 rated player drops out and needs replacement -
the team captain can choose an 1800 player from the stanby list or
a player rated 1639 or lower from the restricted list.

So....... If you missed the initial draft and still would like a chance at play,
sign up now for the restricted standby list.
We now have an additional 4 players on the restricted list.
at https://forum.faforever.com/topic/858/rainbow-cup-iii-3-v-3-1-2k

**The reason I opened the registration again is because the standby pool is not very strong,
and if a team looses a player, it is not very fair to that team.
(And for the viewers who are eager to watch the most competitive matches they can)
The players who are already on the standby list have already been passed over in draft
and all 12 captains have had a chance to pick them once,
so rating does not matter as far as replacing someone who was already picked before them.
but... New player who register now,
have Not had chance to be picked so can Not replace someone with a lower rating.
There is 'minimal' chance to abuse this system,
as someone would have to of known and planned ahead of time to "make a swap" .
I expect all to abide by the good faith of our FAF community, and not abuse this opportunity.
But if someone forgets to set alarm clock, or has an emergency,
I would like for the remaining team players to have a deeper player pool to choose from.

EcoNoob · 28 Jan 2021, 13:57

I might be there to substitute, 1988 global

BlInChIk · 28 Jan 2021, 16:50

signing up
ladder-1976; global-1741

Fearghal · 30 Jan 2021, 12:41

Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening Whatever time zone you may be in.

Hope everyone is able to make it today, and if not,
we have some players standing by:

As a reminder:
There are Only 2 Tournament specific rules

1- This is a Team Color Tournament.
---Check the Challonge brackets here: https://challonge.com/eatiasiw
------to see if you will be Team #1 or Team #2
---Team #1 will always be the team in the top bracket and wear Red
---Team #2 will be the team in the bottom bracket and wear Blue

2- Team #1 will be first to choose an AI faction for any of the open AI's
---Team #2 will choose the faction for the remaining AI
---If there are 4 AI on the map, Repeat above for AI #'s 3+4

Be sure to download from the vault latest versions of AI-Swarm, AI-Uveso, RNGAI, and Simspeed++
most updated in the last few days, (swarm updated just 10 hours ago)

Team captains refer to the maps above in post/index #3 above to fill in position.

The Tournament will be streamed by Jagged Appliance on the FAF twitch site and
also By Yuri on his site, and possible by others.

Any questions: Contact myself @Fearghal or @Dragun101

Have a great Tournament and
Best o'Luck
Fearghal de Killashee

Fearghal · 30 Jan 2021, 22:53

Great day today,

Only one team had problem getting mods to work,
And there were a couple of no shows,
but we were able to make up some competitive teams from the standby pool.

The winners bracket is good till next Saturday.

Teams in the losers bracket should try to play Up To Losers Round 2 in the bracket during the week.
Teams 2 and 5 need to play, with the winner to play team 8.
Teams 7 and 12 need to play, with the winner to play team 9.

Let me know what time and day you plan on making up the games,

And
Please send an updated team roster if you have made substitutions.

One fun fact: BRNKoINSANITYS stream had the highest viewership Ever on his Twitch Stream
So there was a big crowd watching
Stay tuned for next week, it's gonna be Crazy

Fearghal · 31 Jan 2021, 02:32

Remaining Teams:
"
1 - Nexus-...................................2510-c -+- hurzer99..........................1715 -+- Protect.....................1632. .....= 5.86K
2 - Fremy_Speeddraw.....2361-c -+- csoller...............................1772 -+- AntronGolden.....1730.......= 5.86K
4 - Blodir.....................................2308-c -+- Koiskix..............................1921 -+- Wesh........................1777.........= 6.01K
7 - DeTandlarts.......................1660-c -+- EcoNoob.......................1988 -+- BlInChIk..................1976.........= 5.62K
8 - Paralon.................................2170-c -+- LargeMaleBennis.....1886 -+- Magnetic..............1642..........=5.70K
9 - Swkoll....................................2070-c -+- Inspector_Kot............1801 -+- Sladow....................1691.........= 5.56K
10- ZLO..........................................2029-c -+- Wifi_................................1900 -+- Neytron...................1528........= 5.64K
11- NushHoob...........................1998-c -+- archsimkat...................1915 -+- LimeZ3......................1750........= 5.66K
12- F-Odin...................................1978-c -+- BigBang.........................1792 -+- Tersto.......................1976.........= 5.75K
"
"
Teams Eliminated:
"
5 - Tagada................................2250-c -+- Picco..................................1712 -+- GingerbrdMan..1564........= 5.74K
3 - AchievedJaguar8........2318-c -+- Evan....................................1762 -+- BRNKoINSANITY....1360.....= 5.44K
6 - Eternal-...............................1822-c -+- Auriko..................................1619 -+- Lucied.........................1514.....= 4.96K
"
"
Please report if any inaccuracies.

archsimkat · 31 Jan 2021, 03:13

Motion to rename the tourney to rAInbow Cup

Fearghal · 2 Jan 2021, 16:58

Attention: >> Players from Teams 2, 5, 7, and 12.
These teams either left early or had no shows on Day 1 of the the Tournament,
and were moved into Matches 10 and 11 of the tournament brackets.

These teams will be given till end of tommorow Feb 2 (2400 UTC) to
"arrange a time and day"
to complete the Losers Round 1, BEFORE Tourny Day 2.
They must arrange a mutually agreeable time with the teams in the bracket above them.
And have a TD standby to monitor the games.

Some teams had the Captain no show and some Captains had their draft picks no show,
these teams or Captains may form new teams from the standby list or consolidate teams among themselves.
(substitute ratings limitation/rules apply) must not create a higher Rated team than before.

If teams are not heard back from by tommorrow's deadline...
Teams 8 and 9 will move up to Round 2.

If teams are Not reformed the Draft pick players (due to No fault of their own)
will be placed back into the standby pool,
and can sub on finals day, if neccessary.

Fearghal · 2 Mar 2021, 01:50

Attention RCIII players.. New Finals Date TBD.
The 3rd place team will receive their victory prize at the end of Saturday.

One Best Of Three Match still remains (Match #13), and then
The Tournament Brackets will be caught up to Saturday Feb 6.
There will then be 6 teams left, but unfortunately,
There are too many brackets left (3-5 depending on present bracket position) to finish the Tourny on Same day.

Teams who win the winners bracket will only have to play 2 matches to reach the Finals,
But a team who loses the first match of Winners round 2, will have to play 5 matches.
This would put the Finals start time in Msk at midnight.
The above mentioned team would have to play 4 straight matches then face the well rested winner of the top bracket.

The 2 Teams in the Finals Will agree to play the Finals match on either:
the following day Sunday Feb 7 at 1700 UTC, or
the following Saturday Feb 13th at 1700 UTC.
If Capt's Can Not agree to play the following day, then the date will be set for Feb 13th, at 1700 UTC.

(1700 UTC/Europe = Noon EST/US and 8 pm in Msk)
1700 UTC is peak hour for viewership and good for the streamers and viewers.
And will give time for the Players to be at their Most rested on both teams.

Thanks again to all participants,
and next year ALL the AI developers (5 and counting) want in on the action.

Fearghal · 2 May 2021, 19:25

Remaining Teams and Players:

Team.......Captains........------..........1st round draft.......----------......2nd round draft

1 - Nexus-------------2510-c...+...hurzer99---------1715...+...Protect-------1632 = 5.86 K
4 - Blodir-------------2308-c...+...Koiskix----------1921...+...Wesh---------1777 = 6.01 K
8 - Paralon-----------2170-c...+...Robustness................1436...+...Magnetic-----1642 = 5.45 K
9 - Swkoll------------2070-c...+...Inspector_Kot---1801...+...Sladow--------1691 = 5.56 K
10- ZLO--------------2029-c...+...Wifi_------------1900...+...Neytron------1528 = 5.64 K
11- NushHoob---------1998-c...+...archsimkat------1915...+...LimeZ3--------1750 = 5.66 K

Finish

7 - DeTandlarts-------1660-c...+...EcoNoob--------1988...+...BlInChIk-------1976 = 5.62 K
3 - AchievedJaguar8--2318-c...+...Evan------------1762...+...BRNKoINSANITY-1360 = 5.44 K
6 - Eternal------------1822-c...+...Auriko-----------1619...+...Lucied---------1514 = 4.96 K
12- F-Odin------------1978-c...+...BigBang-------- 1792...+...Tersto---------1976 = 5.75 K
5 - Tagada-----------2250-c...+...Picco-----------1712...+...GingerbrdMan--1564 = 5.74 K
2 - Fremy_Speeddraw-2361-c...+...csoller----------1772...+...AntronGolden--1730 = 5.86 K

Fearghal · 5 Feb 2021, 19:19

All RCIII maps have had their final adjustments made to playability.
Most maps AIx multipliers were nerfed some.
The goal of map AI is to put slight to heavy pressure on players but not to win.
Check out maps here https:
//forum.faforever.com/topic/858/rainbow-cup-iii-3-v-3-1-2k/3

Be sure to Match exactly the options on the right side of maps.
Always Double check the AI Types. and the options yellow dots.

Map #14 (below) for instance has 2 game specific options

the AI is:
AI:RNG Standard - and Not AIx,
AND it has a AI Unit Cap of 500.

This is the Only tourny map where the AI does not have a cheat.
Will the players allow RNGAI to control the whole middle or will they deny?

nine2 · 8 Feb 2021, 00:12

RCIII Tournamenet - Shedule:
4 teams and 3 matches remain.

Finals:NushHoob + archsimkat + LimeZ3
Others: Nexus +hurzer99 + Protect
Blodier + Koiskix + Wesh
Swkoll + Inspector_Kot + sladow

Losers Round 3: Blodir/Swkoll match, Fri @1600 UTC
Losers Round 4: Losers Rd 3 winner / Nexus (determines 3rd place) Sat @1700 UTC
Finals: NushHoob's team / Winners of Losers round 4 (Nexus, Blodir or Swkoll) Sat @1800 UTC
If any casters would like to Cast the uncast games of Swkoll / Zlo:
They are below and both were 2 of best balanced game in tourny.
They would make for a good warm up before Blodir / Swkoll tourny on Friday.

Selkie Mirror Swkoll v Zlo
RNG with no multiplier, plays great, must see perfect balance fight fo main land
https://replay.faforever.com/13806127

And the first Swkoll v Zlo on Tabula Rasa
was the best Swarm game yet,
they put No Navy in, and the Swarm's filled their corners and attacked evenly.
https://replay.faforever.com/13805700

Fearghal · 2 Dec 2021, 18:21

We are now down to the Last 2 matchs and 3 Teams.

Remaining Teams:

Losers Round 4: To be played on Saturday @ 5PM UTC (winner plays in Final)
1 - Nexus-.........................2510-c -+- hurzer99.................1715 -+- Protect.................1632. .....= 5.86K
4 - Blodir..........................2308-c -+- Koiskix......................1921 -+- Wesh.....................1777.......= 6.01K

Finals: To be played on Saturday @ 6PM UTC
11- NushHoob.................1998-c -+- archsimkat..........1915 -+- LimeZ3..................1750.......= 5.66K

FurryLikeMonkey · 13 Feb 2021, 17:16

Is there a way to watch these matches? Getting:
Unhandled exception:
Premature EOF
If I try to watch the live replay x

Fearghal · 14 Feb 2021, 05:39

@FurryLikeMonkey said in Rainbow Cup III ~ 3 v 3 ~ $1.2K:

Is there a way to watch these matches? Getting:
Unhandled exception:
Premature EOF
If I try to watch the live replay x

Make sure to have down loaded the latest versions of the 4 mods being used:
Simspeed++
AI-Swarm
AI-Uveso and
RNGAI

I know live replays still don't work for everyone,
The FAF streamers usually wait for them to finish DL'ng to the vault before playing back.

Fearghal · 14 Feb 2021, 05:39

We have Finally Reached The Finals
To be played on Sunday @ 6PM UTC

11- NushHoob.......-+- archsimkat.........-+- LimeZ3
VS
1 - Nexus-................-+- hurzer99..............-+- Protect

3rd Place goes to:
4 - Blodir..................-+- Koiskix....................-+- Wesh

Fearghal · 14 Feb 2021, 16:53

All 3 Civilian Armies are gathered "Together" for the First Time.
On Adaptive Dark Liver
Azraeelian Angels' Swarm Terror doctrine is on the Left,
Uveso's Adaptive Armies are on the Right, and
Relent0rs' RNG Army and Air will be in Rear.
.
Finals
Match 22 > Game 1
Finals - Game 1 Map - Will be Adaptive Dark Liver

.
This map is a 3 team map, but it is Not symetrical about the player/AI axises.
So do NOT expect exact symmetry in the battle.
By now you should know Civilian tactics well, AND
will need to compensate.
.
If the team who loses this battle,
feels the gameplay favored the other side:
They May choose to "Trade" start positions and try same map again.
(This game will count as Game 2 of the Finals)
.
If losing team is 'ok' with the outcome,
and would like to choose alternate maps for game 2 and possible games 3-4,
then proceed as instructed below:
.
.
Finals
Match 22 > Game 2 & 3
Games 2 and 3 maps will be chosen by the Captains as follows:
Each Captain will send list of 8 map numbers, from the map pool to veto.
The remaining maps will be vetoed 1 at a time until 3 maps are left,
and then high seed Captain will pick "Odds or Evens"
The winner of the "Odds or Evens" roll, will then choose the map
to play for Game 2.
Odds or Evens will be decided on Aeolus by using the command - !roll -.
If a game 3 is needed, the other Captain,
will choose one of the remaining 2 maps to play.
(the 3rd remaining map will be used if a Tie Break is needed.)
.
.
*Final
Match 23 > Game 1 (only used if tie break is needed)
The 3rd map remaining in the Finals map selection will be used if tie break is needed.

Fearghal · 1 Dec 2022, 02:58

We have Come to the end of the Rainbow Cup III

Team #11- NushHoob--+- archsimkat-------+- LimeZ3---1st Place. = $660.00

Team # 1 - Nexus------+- BloodOath/Picoo--+- Protect--2nd Place = $360.00

Team #4 - Blodir------+- Koiskix-----------+-Wesh----3rd Place = $180.00

Congratulations and thanks to All who participated.

The AI developers learned a lot.
Most AI was developed for 1v1 play, and team play is new.
Next years AI will be much smarter and AIx factors will be adjusted accordingly.
Some maps that did not play well, will be changed.
I've already come up with some fun things to try in RC IV