please remove the impersonation rule guys we had a fun one planned
Discussing the "rename rule"
@Jip said in Discussing the "rename rule":
@nuggets said in Discussing the "rename rule":
In my opinion someone should only be banned on rename for these reasons:
(1) the player he renamed himself to reported him
(2) the name is racist or offensiveWon't you agree that (1) is a bit lame? Unless Maudlin (to continue the example) is around to report it himself then nobody else is able to report the fake Maudlin26 who's being a total douche bag and actively trying to be toxic within the boundaries of the rules? How does that contribute to a healthy environment?
I would personally not appreciate it if it would happen to me for sure.
It sounds to me like the primary thing you’re worried about is acting toxic within the boundaries of the rule with the name impersonation being a tertiary aspect.
Does it contribute to a healthy environment to ban people that are having fun having impersonating names and not being toxic within the rules? Because currently like 10-15% of the active 1800+ players have taken each other’s names and are impersonating each other. Do we stop that?
@ftxcommando said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Does it contribute to a healthy environment to ban people that are having fun having impersonating names and not being toxic within the rules? Because currently like 10-15% of the active 1800+ players have taken each other’s names and are impersonating each other. Do we stop that?
Do you need to impersonate others to have fun?
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@jip said in Discussing the "rename rule":
@ftxcommando said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Does it contribute to a healthy environment to ban people that are having fun having impersonating names and not being toxic within the rules? Because currently like 10-15% of the active 1800+ players have taken each other’s names and are impersonating each other. Do we stop that?
Do you need to impersonate others to have fun?
What kind of question is that. Of course you can have fun without. Doens't change the fact that you can also have fun with the name changes.
It's like asking if you need to have ingame chat to have fun.
@jip said in Discussing the "rename rule":
@ftxcommando said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Does it contribute to a healthy environment to ban people that are having fun having impersonating names and not being toxic within the rules? Because currently like 10-15% of the active 1800+ players have taken each other’s names and are impersonating each other. Do we stop that?
Do you need to impersonate others to have fun?
Tbh, at this point you can just remove renames all together. Cuz what's the reasoning behind allowing them once a month, if you are gonna have multiple names be off the list cuz someone once used them?
Like, are we gonna start banning everyone who renames to a name that was once had by someone?
I can fully understand if someone is malicious with the renames and behaving like a twat/breaking the rules. But if nobody is getting hurt then why be so uptight about them. Especially when all the parties actually involved don't see a problem with it apart from the moderation team.
Like how many "hide on bush" are there in league? And yet none of them are getting banned as long as they are actually behaving like a normal human being instead of being toxic pos.
@nuggets hello sir please pick one thing you enjoy in life and only do that one thing for the rest of your life.
Just to make sure this is not misunderstood: we did not ban a player permanently for name-impersonating. We only locked the account until the player contacted us to change their name to a new name, then changed the name and unlocked the account.
Also, in this particular case the two names in question were indistinguishable: the only difference between 'Deli' and 'DeIi' is that the latter doesn't use a lower-case L, but a capital-case i. That caused issues, and so we told the last player to change his name to pick another username.
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@indexlibrorum said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Just to make sure this is not misunderstood: we did not ban a player permanently for name-impersonating. We only locked the account until the player contacted us to change their name to a new name, then changed the name and unlocked the account.
Also, in this particular case the two names in question were indistinguishable: the only difference between 'Deli' and 'DeIi' is that the latter doesn't use a lower-case L, but a capital-case i. That caused issues, and so we told the last player to change his name to pick another username.
First of all, we dont discuss moderation actions!! But if you are, please elaborate "that caused issues". Are you talking about the rule or the report?
I think everybody, or at least most people, understand what i meant. Doesn't change the fact that this rule (in my opinion) has no use case and is not enforced anywhere else (even in other small communities)
As with all the made up rules for the Forged Alliance Forever client, the rules apply to some but not to all.
In the case of this renaming rule debacle, take some of these current SNF clan members. The most active of these players have all changed their names to various other members, and not just the members from within the clan but outside the clan too. This is completely fine apparently.
According to my sources, it's fine because they are just "joking". My source being someone who has suffered the consequences of this bias rule
I stand with Nuggets in principle, that this rule is nonsensical essentially. I see 0 harm in renaming to someone else or similar. I mean how do you change your name to someone else's anyway when presumably the name is taken.
@thomashiatt What's weird is that you're active in a forum for a game you don't play
Disrespectful.
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