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Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF

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    TheVVheelboy
    last edited by TheVVheelboy 21 Jul 2023, 23:30

    Aeon apologists try not to justify toxic game design challenge (impossible)

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      DrPatrickStar
      last edited by 22 Jul 2023, 18:46

      But you risk UEF players no longer being able to simply right click into the enemy base. What do you expect them to do, actually scout, preemptively destroy the kamikaze units, build some t1 maa? Madness.

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        FtXCommando
        last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 00:34

        This dude has no idea uef t2 navy requires completely perfect intel to not autolose

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          TheVVheelboy @DrPatrickStar
          last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 03:55

          @drpatrickstar
          Imagine thinking that t1 or t2 maa will reliably stop Mercies lmao.
          Yeah, let me move my MAA in front of the acu so that they can actually try stopping the mercies. WAIT WHERE IS MY MAA?

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            TankenAbard @TheVVheelboy
            last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 12:50

            @xiaomao said in Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF:

            @drpatrickstar
            Imagine thinking that t1 or t2 maa will reliably stop Mercies lmao.
            Yeah, let me move my MAA in front of the acu so that they can actually try stopping the mercies. WAIT WHERE IS MY MAA?

            I, too, enjoy the Mercy changes.

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              DrPatrickStar @TheVVheelboy
              last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:23

              @xiaomao

              if your opponent gets enough unscouted mercies to kill you, you deserve to lose.

              If you scout them and don't sacrifice a few inties to kill them, you deserve to lose.

              If you can't do this and still walk your acu in a way that it can get snipe, you deserve to lose.

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                TheVVheelboy
                last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:40

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                Tell me more.

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                  Tryth @DrPatrickStar
                  last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:47

                  @drpatrickstar

                  This type of logic is why we need instructions on shampoo.

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                    phong @DrPatrickStar
                    last edited by phong 24 Jul 2023, 16:18

                    @drpatrickstar i am happier with all T2 snipes providing more or less the same wiggle room to the victim, and mercies were way more punishing than T2 gunships or bombers because of the alpha damage. No chance to move under shields, no chance to get close to flak, no chance to bring inties to help, just scout (every aeon, not just your opponent), cower away from the front, or die randomly.

                    Aeon gunships can do almost the same thing but it feels more fair losing to them.

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                      Loom-
                      last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:12

                      why is there still no option to downvote things

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                        Tryth @Loom-
                        last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:12

                        @boomnoob

                        Bec people will get bullied worse than whatโ€™s already happening

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                          TheVVheelboy
                          last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:16

                          Would they? I would just downvote and move on.
                          But now you need to actually write something to show you disagree.

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                            RRedMage
                            last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 22:16

                            @phong
                            I see your point, it makes sense. Although I can hardly say that T2 UEF air is capable of "sniping" rather than "steady tickling to death".

                            For me it always was an intentional difference between races:

                            • UEF has only damage over time
                            • Aeon has only alpha damage
                            • Cybran and Seraph are in the middle
                              (talking aboun air to ground damage here but Aeon is about alpha damage in many different places)

                            Now Aeon air seems to be very strange:
                            Mercy is a one-use Janus and Specters cost more than Stingers, have twice less dps but in alpha-damage form (aka extremely bad).

                            I don't say I know what to do with Mercy so they become useful but balanced, but seems like this direction just makes them obsolete.

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                              TheVVheelboy
                              last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 23:32

                              @RRedMage
                              Get your facts straight dude. You have best T2 gunship and somehow still cry about it, even lie about it's DPS which is more or less the same as stinger. Like holy shit, how come every aeon dude is like the biggest crybaby ever.

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                                Tryth @RRedMage
                                last edited by 26 Jul 2023, 07:00

                                @rredmage

                                Bro wants a 2 shot uef gunship at t2 stage ๐Ÿ’€

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                                  RRedMage @TheVVheelboy
                                  last edited by 26 Jul 2023, 09:46

                                  @Xiaomao not talking to you, go bully someone else on twitter

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                                    RRedMage @Tryth
                                    last edited by 26 Jul 2023, 10:24

                                    @tryth

                                    | Bro wants a 2 shot uef gunship at t2 stage ๐Ÿ’€

                                    Can you please elaborate, I can not parse what you wanted to say.

                                    I am taking calculating units dps from the Units tab in FAF, so there might be some inconsistency with the current game state. I've tested actual dps values, they are the same for Aeon and UEF. So the gunship point is invalid, but the "one time Janus" point holds.

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                                      TheVVheelboy @RRedMage
                                      last edited by 26 Jul 2023, 10:55

                                      @rredmage said in Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF:

                                      @Xiaomao not talking to you, go bully someone else on twitter

                                      Why should I, it's not me blatantly lying to everyone else in his posts and promoting toxic game design.

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                                        NaN @MazorNoob
                                        last edited by 26 Jul 2023, 11:07

                                        @mazornoob in early-mid game beatle is greate when dealing with t2 spam where there is no ACU near

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