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    TheWreck
    last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 19:04

    Bubble shield has never been very good. A bubble boi although not oc proof provides 50k hp for 5k mass and you don't lose when the bubble boi dies.

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      veteranashe
      last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 19:12

      I'll believe it when I see it.

      Still not sure with the current bubble sheild you have to stand in one spot.

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        MeowMure
        last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 20:06

        Is this and of an era of hover strat?

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          Sladow-Noob
          last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 22:11

          just hoverbomb it longer 4head

          Inactive.

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            TheWreck
            last edited by 15 Jun 2023, 21:07

            You can always do flips with aeon t1 bomber if you get bored

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              MeowMure
              last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 08:49

              Since in this patch navy is going to be changed a lot, I suggest also to rework t2 torpedo launchers to make them more usable. Now they are completely useless and literally no one builds them. I sugges to place them under water and reduce hp amount to approximately 2000, so that they could effectively kill t1 spam but will lose do destros with torpedos (cooper in case of the UEF). You can change them also in another way but please make them playable.

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                Rowey @MeowMure
                last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 08:59

                @gabitii they have been buffed in FAF beta

                "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                  veteranashe
                  last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 12:49

                  With 50% more build time, doesn't sound like a buff.

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                    MeowMure @Rowey
                    last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 12:49

                    @rowey I do not think they need a "buff" which is actually not the case in balance patch. The damage was increased by 20% whereas build time was increased by more than 20%, therefore it is not a buff. Even if it would have been buff, I think they need a decent rework, not a buff.

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                      ComradeStryker @MeowMure
                      last edited by ComradeStryker 16 Jun 2023, 19:25

                      Regarding the recent Cybran upgrade modifications...

                      Has the impact of veterancy been taken into account?
                      The combined effect of these changes, even with just one level of veterancy, seems somewhat excessive.

                      While the new nano upgrade itself appears reasonable, when coupled with the regen enhancements from stealth and the base Cybran ACU, along with the increased HP on top of that...
                      Well, in my opinion, stacking these upgrades with veterancy might make it a bit too powerful.

                      The Cybran ACU now boasts:
                      15,500 HP
                      90 Regen
                      Stealth

                      All for a mass investment of 1,650.

                      These are the base statistics without any veterancy levels.


                      ~ Stryker

                      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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                        TheWreck
                        last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 23:19

                        What is the number for the uef nano com?The mass investment for that is like 1000

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                          TheWreck
                          last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 23:41

                          https://replay.faforever.com/20187315 at min 42 a t3 reactor gets killed and the explosion kills 30k mass in t3 gunships. I don't think decreasing the air height is a good idea. Also you can groundfire the gunships with an asswasher which is more than a little broken.

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                            TheVVheelboy
                            last edited by 17 Jun 2023, 00:37

                            You could ground fire gunships with ahwassa even before this change. Now it's just gonna be more brutal I guess.

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                              TheWreck
                              last edited by 17 Jun 2023, 02:28

                              The fact that killing a t3 pgen now kills them all is almost more concerning tbh

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                                ComradeStryker @TheWreck
                                last edited by ComradeStryker 17 Jun 2023, 07:10

                                @thewreck said in Pending Balance Changes Feedback Thread:

                                What is the number for the uef nano com?The mass investment for that is like 1000

                                Base stats without any level of veterancy:

                                UEF Nano: (Stacks with Base ACU stats)
                                800 mass
                                +1,500 HP (Total = 13,500)
                                +40 Regen (Total = 50 HP/S)


                                Cybran Stealth: (Stacks with Base ACU stats)
                                650 Mass
                                +2,000 HP (Total 12,000)
                                +20 Regen (Total = 40 HP/S)

                                New Cybran Nano: (Stacks with Stealth)
                                1,000 Mass
                                +3,500 HP (Total = 15,500)
                                +50 Regen (Total = 90 HP/S)


                                The new nano upgrade's regen stat as a nano upgrade is very reasonable.

                                But the extra HP, paired with a huge Regen increase in both Stealth and Base Regen is quite extreme, in my opinion.
                                And this would stack far more so for every level of vet, as well.

                                I recommend more testing be made before a huge change like this rolls out.


                                ~ Stryker

                                ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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                                  Blodir @TheVVheelboy
                                  last edited by Blodir 17 Jun 2023, 08:14

                                  @xiaomao said in Pending Balance Changes Feedback Thread:

                                  You could ground fire gunships with ahwassa even before this change. Now it's just gonna be more brutal I guess.

                                  @thewreck said in Pending Balance Changes Feedback Thread:

                                  https://replay.faforever.com/20187315 at min 42 a t3 reactor gets killed and the explosion kills 30k mass in t3 gunships. I don't think decreasing the air height is a good idea. Also you can groundfire the gunships with an asswasher which is more than a little broken.

                                  There are no changes to elevations of gunships or the Ahwassa (gunships are still 10, and Ahwassa is still 25). That being said perhaps increasing gunship elevations to 12 or 14 could be experimented with.

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                                    Rowey @ComradeStryker
                                    last edited by 17 Jun 2023, 08:15

                                    @comradestryker can you also add up what sera double nano is as well to get a fair comparison

                                    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                                      veteranashe
                                      last edited by 17 Jun 2023, 12:39

                                      Where is the nano upgrade at for cybran? Middle?

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                                        Sladow-Noob @TheWreck
                                        last edited by 17 Jun 2023, 13:39

                                        @thewreck wdym gunships always took damage when killing explosive buildings. I remember losing a campaign over a year ago cuz 70 Restos just died due to a grif 4head.
                                        I thought that was a known fact

                                        Inactive.

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                                          waffelzNoob @Sladow-Noob
                                          last edited by 17 Jun 2023, 15:20

                                          @sladow-noob restos fly lower than other gunships, if im not mistaken
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                                          frick snoops!

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