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    • FearghalF
      Fearghal
      last edited by Fearghal

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      Event: "Rainbow Cup V" ~ 3 v 3 ~ AI Masters ~ <1,800 rating

      Dates: Sat, Sept 24, 2022 at 1600 UTC, (1-3 Bo3 matches or 2-9 games)
      ------ Sun, Sept 25, 2022 at 1600 UTC, (2-3 Bo3 matches or 4-9 games)
      ------ Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 1500 UTC, (1 Bo3 and 1 Bo7 or 3-9 games)

      $1,200 Prize Pool

      1st Place = $660 + This Unique Avatar
      RCV Avatar1.png 2nd Place = $360
      3rd Place = $180

      This is a 3 v 3 Double Elimination Tournament,
      where each team wears team colors, and
      2-4 AI armies are added on every map as a
      common enemy to both sides.

      Registration is open to all players average rated 1800* and below.

      Sign up as a single, or
      sign up with a friend as a pair,

      All under 1,800 ratings are welcome and a
      "balanced" method of team formation, by
      a draft type system is used.

      The registration period will end at 2400 EST on Sept 11th,
      and the draft will start on Sept 12th.

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      • FearghalF
        Fearghal
        last edited by Fearghal

        Post #2: Team Colors, Mods, Options, Directions and Rules

        Team Colors: --Here are the Rainbow Cup V - Team Colors.
        Each team's 3 players must use one of the 6 team colors in chart below.

        Team #1------ Reds, Oranges and Yellows.
        AI ------------ Greens.
        Team #2 ------ Blues, Indigo, Violet and White.

        RCV TeamColor1.jpg
        .
        MODS: Load the Bracket specified AI Mod/s for each game.
        Load from the FAF client Mods vault.
        AI SIM Mods needed to play:
        AI Mods.jpg
        .
        OPTIONS:
        1- Share Conditions: Full Share
        2- AIx Omni Settings: Off
        3- AI Map Marker Generator: Autogenerate Always
        4- Set AI Build and Cheat multipliers
        .
        DIRECTIONS:
        When there are 3 start spawns:
        Captains can pick any side or color.
        If they can not agree....
        !Roll for the Map Side Or color.
        The !Roll winner gets to choose one,
        and the loser gets to choose the other.

        When there are > 3 "open" start spawns,
        follow this procedure to select team starting positions:
        1 - !Roll -> winner chooses to be: "Team 1" or "Team 2".
        2- Team 1 - chooses side of map, team color, and set's up first.
        3- Team 2 - sets up second.
        4- Team 1 - can then choose to play "as is", Or
        ----has the option of a "One time only/permanent" position change.
        5- Team 2 - can then play "as is", Or
        ----make a Final positional change. (get the last move)
        6- Position AI, set Factions, and color them Green.
        7- Close any open positions
        8- Launch Game.

        .
        RULES:
        1- Players must be in an official Team Color
        If a player who is Not in an "official team color",
        is spotted by a player on the opposing team,
        before the 5 minute mark, that player can
        "Pause" the game and force a Re-host.
        Multiple infractions may be cause for a game loss or 'dq'.
        2- Play until one human team is defeated,
        by either the opposing human team or the AI.
        The last remaining human team is the winner.

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        • FearghalF
          Fearghal
          last edited by Fearghal

          Post #3: Tournament Schedule + Structure

          Each bracket will use the same AI, for all the games of the match.
          That means the game lobby host will only have to load the
          match specific AI's once for each match.

          Swarm AI ----------------------------will have 3 maps for Round 1 = 4 matches
          SCTA AI -----------------------------will have 3 maps for Round 2 = 4 matches
          Marlo's Sorian Edit --------------will have 3 maps for Losers Round 1 = 4 matches

          Uveso AI ------------will have 3 maps for Round 3 and Loser round 2 = 4 matches
          DilliDalli AI ----------will have 3 maps for Round 4 and Loser round 3 = 3 matches

          RNGAI and M27AI---------will have 7-12 maps that will play in the last = 3 matches

          BlankBracketWhite2.jpg

          Final Tournament Results:
          BracketFinal.jpg

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          • FearghalF
            Fearghal
            last edited by Fearghal

            Post #4: Player Registration

            Registration is open to players rated <1800 and below.

            The registration period will end at 2400 EST on Sept 11th,
            On Sept 12th - 2 player pairings will be finalized,
            and the draft will commence.

            Players can register as Singles or as Doubles.
            Doubles are restricted to a combined rating of 3.5K rating.

            If we have less than 12 teams, and have more singles than teams,
            we will make the top rated singles captains.
            The captains will pick 1 teammate, starting from lowest rated Captain to highest.
            After the Singles are paired up to make 8, 10, 11 or 12 teams,
            we will then reorder teams by combined ratings.

            Teams will be re-seeded according to their combined ratings and
            get to draft their 3rd team member from the singles draft pool.
            The draft will start from the lowest seeded team up to the highest seeded team.

            RCV Reg.jpg
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            • FearghalF
              Fearghal
              last edited by Fearghal

              Post #5: Game Map/Scenairo example

              How the game maps are released:
              AI positions are shown, with AI factions pre-selected,
              Closed spawn sites are shown,
              Any remaining spawns Not closed, are open for players.

              Reset All options to default each game, and
              set the 3 tourny specific options (in green out line box).

              AI Cheat and Build multipliers will be from:
              a low of 1.0 (AI) to a high of 1.4x (AIx)

              Below is an example game map/scenario:

              00 Example.jpg

              -This example game map/scenario has Mixed AI's...
              with AIx in front/top spawns and Standard AI in the back/bottom spawn sites.

              That's it! .....Basically.... Just match the Game Lobby/Map Screen, easy peazy.

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              • FearghalF
                Fearghal
                last edited by Fearghal

                Post #6: Map Pool

                Day 1: 3 Bo3 bracket's.
                Day 2: 3 Bo3 bracket's .
                Day 3: 1 Bo3, and 1 Bo7.

                RCVMaps.jpg *L, W, A + I = Land, Water, Air and Island type maps.
                .
                .

                RCV Tournament Scenario/Map's + Game Lobby Set Ups

                Round 1 - Swarm AI
                Matches 1-4 > Game 1
                Map #1 = Adaptive Tournament Decision

                01AdTournDec2a.jpg Choice of 5 spawns to set up on.
                .
                Round 1 - Swarm AI
                Matches 1-4 > Game 2
                Map #2 = Adaptive Corona

                02AdCorona2a.jpg Choice of 5 spawns to set up on.
                .
                Round 1 - Swarm AI
                Matches 1-4 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #3 = Adaptive Aloren

                03AdAloren2a.jpg
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                .
                Round 2 - SCTA Bal + Fix
                Matches 5-8 > Game 1
                Map #4 = Adaptive Irritated

                04AdIrritated2a.jpg Players must choose one of the stock 4 FAF factions at game start.
                .
                Round 2 - SCTA Bal + Fix
                Matches 5-8 > Game 2
                Map #5 = Big Blasted Rock

                05BigBlastedRock2.jpg
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                Round 2 - SCTA Bal + Fix
                Matches 5-8 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #6 = Delta_Ravine

                06delta_ravine2.jpg Get in the ravine quick, that's where all the reclaim is.
                .
                .
                Loser's Round 1 - Sorian edit
                Matches 9-12 > Game 1
                Map #7 =Adaptive Hansan Gorge

                07AdHensenGorge2a.jpg Ground player will need back up ground help from plateau teammates.
                .
                Loser's Round 1 - Sorian edit
                Matches 9-12 > Game 2
                Map #8 = Gates of Noobs Adaptive

                08GatesofNoobsAd2.jpg Be prepared for lots of T1 bomber attacks.
                .
                Loser's Round 1 - Sorian edit
                Matches 9-12 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #9 = Hyperion

                09Hyperion2a.jpg
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                Round 3 & Loser's Round 2 - Uveso
                Matches 13-16 > Game 1
                Map #10 =Adaptive Disguise

                10AdDisguise2a.jpg
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                Round 3 & Loser's Round 2 - Uveso
                Matches 13-16 > Game 2
                Map #11 = Exp Adaptive War Zone

                11ExpWarZone2a.jpg
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                Round 3 & Loser's Round 2 - Uveso
                Matches 13-16 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #12 = Adaptive Regor Highlands

                12AdRegorHighlands2a.jpg
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                Round 4 & Loser's Round 3 - DilliDalli
                Matches 17, 18 & 20 > Game 1
                Map #13 = Plateau of Arracis

                13 Plateau of Arracis2a.jpg Choice of 4 spawns, civilian bases in hills and fighting on your right, left and center.
                .
                Round 4 & Loser's Round 3 - DilliDalli
                Matches 17, 18 & 20 > Game 2
                Map #14 = Big Bang Dry

                14BigBangDry2a.jpg
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                Round 4 & Loser's Round 3 - DilliDalli
                Matches 17, 18 & 20 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #15 =5vs5 Tabula Rasa

                15 5vs5 Tabula Rasa2a.jpg
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                .
                Loser's Round 4 - M27
                Match 19 > Game 1
                Map #16 =Adaptive Millenium

                16AdMillenium2a.jpg
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                Loser's Round 4 - RNG
                Match 19 > Game 2
                Map #17 =Fuji Phantoms

                17FujiPhantoms2a.jpgMeet RNG Experimental - expect novax and fatty visits.
                .
                Loser's Round 4 - RNG
                Match 19 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #18 =VODKA

                18VODKA2a.jpg
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                .
                Semi Finals - M27
                Match 21 > Game 1
                Map #19 =Adaptive Strongwyn

                19AdStrongwyn2a.jpgLooks like a beach landing from water needed.
                .
                Semi Finals - RNG
                Match 21 > Game 2
                Map #20 =Air Wars 6v6

                20AirWars6v62a.jpg4 central plateau's to claim and do Air Battle over.
                .
                Semi Finals - M27
                Match 21 > Game 3 (if necessary)
                Map #21 =Adaptive Stogesgrad

                21AdaptiveStogesgard2a.jpg
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                .
                Finals - M27
                Match 22 > Game 1
                Map #22 =Dark Liver Mirrored

                22DarkLiverMirrored2a.jpg

                .
                Finals - RNG + M27
                Match 22 > Game 2
                Map #23 =Exo T-50 testing ground

                23ExoTtestingground2a.jpg

                .
                Finals - RNG + M27
                Match 22 > Game 3
                Map #24 = Citadel

                24Citadel2a.jpg

                .
                Finals - RNG
                Match 22 > Game 4 (if necessary)
                Map #25 =Hyperion

                25Hyperion2a.jpg

                .
                Finals - M27
                Match 22 > Game 5 (if necessary)
                Map #26 =Grave Wind

                26GraveWind2a.jpg

                .
                Finals - RNG + M27
                Match 22 > Game 6 (if necessary)
                Map #27 =Carrius

                27Carrius2a.jpg

                There are "only" 6 maps for the Best of 7 Finals, due to
                the Winners bracket team Starting the Finals one game up, at 1-0.

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                • FearghalF
                  Fearghal
                  last edited by Fearghal

                  Post #7: Acknowledgements

                  Thanks to our wonderful AI development dept.

                  Uveso----------------AI-Uveso
                  Azraeelian Angel------AI-Swarm
                  Relent0r--------------RNGAI
                  Softles---------------AI:DilliDalli
                  Maudlin27------------M27AI
                  Dragun101 + Raevn----SCTA Balance + Fix
                  !Marlo---------------Sorian AI edit

                  Sprouto, Jip, Balthazar, and Chp2001.

                  Thanks to our promotions team
                  esp- Rowey and Javi who reach out often to offer help.

                  Thanks to Fichom for designing the computer chip/brain avatar
                  RCV AvatarLg.png

                  Thanks to our FAF Live castors who entertain us,
                  give our Tourney players some prime air time, and
                  showcase the AI Developers Mods.

                  Thanks to the rest of our wonderful community,
                  including our player councilor, admins, moderators,
                  tournament directors, client server techs,
                  and the many others that make FAF Sup Com so much fun.

                  And of course - a Big Thank's to those who Participated 🙂

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                  • FearghalF
                    Fearghal
                    last edited by Fearghal

                    Post #8: Prize Pool Pay Outs

                    Pay outs will be done thru Pay Pal.
                    Sponsor will pay up to the standard $6.00 transfer fee.
                    or up to 1 international transfer fee,
                    Any fee's above $6.00 or 1 international fee,
                    will be deducted from the pay out prize.

                    If prize monies are unable to be paid out due to local/regional restrictions,
                    monies can be held by sponsor until a later time or
                    transferred to and "held" in the FAF Treasury.
                    Other options are also available.

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                    • FearghalF
                      Fearghal
                      last edited by Fearghal

                      Post #9: Past Rainbow Cup Tournaments

                      RCI 4v4 ~ $300
                      Held May 2018
                      1st place: $150 =Epic Synergy (Heaven, Exotic Retard, Jagged Appliance + Feather)
                      2nd place: $100 =VegetableStack (InspektorGoose, Blinchlk, Bravo + Wifi)
                      3rd place: $50 =GBstack (F-Odin, Blast_chilled, Dro + System Failure)
                      Winner of the $50 bonus round = Comstack (AchievedJaguar8, Snowbound, Hushnoob + Obiwankenoobi)
                      https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16118

                      RCII 4v4 ~ Alliances ~ $400
                      Held July 2018
                      1st Place $220 = "Free Feather" =Achieved Jaguar, Picoo, Tagada + Blast Chilled
                      2nd Place $120 = "VegetableStack" =ZLO, BlinChiK, Bravo_ + Magnotok
                      3rd Place $60 = "Peanut Butter" =blark, blurk, blyrk + blirk
                      https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16177

                      RCIII 3v3 v AI ~ Civilians ~ $1,200
                      Held Feb 2021
                      1st Place $660 =WoundedElkNoob, archsimkat + LimeZ3
                      2nd Place $360 =Nexus-, Bloodoath/Picoo, + Protect
                      3rd Place $180 =Blodir, KoisKix + Wesh
                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/858/rainbow-cup-iii-3-v-3-1-2k

                      RCIV 3v3 v AI ~ SpaceNet ~ $1,200
                      Held Feb/Mar 2022
                      1st Place $660 = Haachamachama, FtXCommando + Exselsior
                      2nd Place $360 = YellowNoob, Grimplex + InspektorKot
                      3rd Place $180 = Tagada, Hybrid + Ctrl-K
                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/3016/rainbow-cup-iv-dates-set

                      RCV 3v3 v AI ~ AI Masters ~ <1,800 ~ $1,200
                      Held on Sept 24,25 +Oct 1, 2022
                      1st Place = $660 = "Cyber Alliance" = Salnik, Nikerochek and Abandoned
                      2nd Place = $360 = "Overrated" = Aranei, Crypteck and Upas
                      3rd Place = $180 = "Muffin Men" = GingerBreadMan, Skrat and Hyp3r2001
                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4033/rainbow-cup-v-tournament

                      RCVI Open tournament
                      Tentatively set for Feb 25 + 26, 2023

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                      • FearghalF
                        Fearghal
                        last edited by Fearghal

                        Post #10: Rainbow Cup Series Tournaments

                        The Rainbow Cup series of tournaments do not
                        necessarily endorse, represent or have any
                        affiliations with any other groups.

                        The Rainbow Cup Tournaments are a series of
                        good, clean, fun FAF Supreme Commander competition,
                        where we get to enjoy Color Coordinated Team play.

                        color bar2mod.jpg

                        Register below now,
                        and get ready to color up and show off your AI knowledge and FFA skills.

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                        • SpikeyNoobS
                          SpikeyNoob Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          If i am 1800 will i get to play? I read smthn about u letting everyone who did not get drafted last time play.

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                          • FearghalF
                            Fearghal @SpikeyNoob
                            last edited by Fearghal

                            @spikeynoob
                            Thanks for question,

                            Since you gave notice today at 1763 rating,
                            you are registered as 1763 for tourny!

                            Plus..
                            I would like for everyone who registered for the RCIV and did NOT get drafted,
                            Or
                            were forced to withdraw on Feb 24th,
                            to get a chance to play in this tournament.

                            I already checked the ratings of the 4 players who withdrew last minute and
                            none are currently over 1800,
                            And....
                            the idea is to give players that registered for the RCIV an opportunity to play.

                            I can see a situation where someone who was passed over at 17-1800 in the RCIV,
                            have their ratings rise to mid/low 1800 and ...
                            then be disqualified for this tourney and
                            still Not get picked in the Next RCVI open.
                            These 'players' would fall thru cracks where,
                            they are not strong enough to get picked in the Open RC's,
                            but too high rated for this <1800 tourney.
                            So I would like to make exceptions for the 1 or 2 players who might be a "little" over 1800,
                            and have previously registered for the RCIII or IV cups and did Not get drafted.

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                            • FearghalF
                              Fearghal
                              last edited by Fearghal

                              New Tournament Rating Calculating method
                              to determine ratings of players with rating's above 1800, when
                              there is an "under 100 game" total game sample size and
                              Where the players next highest rating has a greater number of games played".

                              To find the RC tournament rating:
                              We will proportionally blend the 2 or 3 ratings.
                              The next highest rating - will "weigh" that rating with a 100 game history weight.
                              The above 1800 small sample rating's will be weighed with it's game total.
                              The more games played the higher it affects their rating(rises the average) and
                              the fewer games played will conversely, only slightly rise the larger game sample rating.
                              see Formula and Examples below below:

                              Formula, to find a RC Tournament Rating:
                              (>1800 rating x # games) played +
                              (Lower rating x 100 game weight) = Combined ratings #.
                              Combined rating #, divided by combined # of games = New rating.

                              Example: First time this rule has been used "so far" in this tournament:
                              One players RC tournament rating was determined by:
                              Golbal rating (1714 x 100) games +
                              4v4 rating (1874 x 26) games =
                              Combined rating (220,384/126) total games = 1749
                              RC tournament Rating = 1749

                              Ratings listed below are for Seeding of Combined 2 player teams for draft seeding purposes:
                              Players who wish to contest a rating due to Low number of games or
                              due to any other reason may request a review
                              RCV Ratings 724.jpg

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                              • MrBeastM
                                MrBeast @Fearghal
                                last edited by

                                @fearghal Yea good idea, but also using ladder rating is not effective thing, we may play as 2400 at ladder in 1v1 , but its doesnt possible to crush 2x 2000 with two bases, at the time teammates for real may blocking mass. Its need to have a discussing about balancing, for a fact need to analyticly place a stronk list a playerst by voting. And place them from 1-t -12-t captains list. For example Nexus with 2500 is not can win vs 4x 1800, Same situation with other guys. So if u dont want to see " predicted tourney" as it was last one, u should create Voting for stronk of players. Or at least rate it by tourney situations. Ratings from max number of all modes, doesnt work in team games, becouse players who really understand what they need, was picked already from the list. Also balance stuff from ladder is different to global rating with more then 2 players in team, and more-bad for 4v4. So what about ratings 2v2 and 4v4? Its broken. At the time guys from global getting +10-9 from won/loss, there we getting around 15-40, and its already making such a confuss. I have no real idea how u going to make it balanced from players "underrated", or "more teamplay active". I see only one way of playing ur tourneys: "just drop rating hard from 2300-2400 to 1800, and free get the best of us to crush, otherwise its auto-loss against stacked 1800-2100 rated guys. Thats like my emotions from last trip. Not really I did my best to win with my guys, they was good, but condition of balancing still seems retarded.

                                DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                                • FtXCommandoF
                                  FtXCommando
                                  last edited by FtXCommando

                                  Kinda confused at your conclusions here.

                                  One of the last captains to pick won the last event, anyone below Yudi could have picked the players he picked. The problem is more that there was a 200 rating discrepancy between you and Yudi which is huge and basically impossible to overcome unless there is also a 200 rating discrepancy in the draftees, but there are more 1800ish players than people at 2300-2400 so it doesn't happen. If you wanted perfectly equal teams you would have had to force Yudi and everyone above him to not pick anyone higher than seed 30 on the draftee list.

                                  It doesn't help that we actually put decent thought into maps before the tourney and Yudi even trained Exselsior some prior to the tourney so even with the team being stacked in rating we put in a decent bit of extra effort.

                                  Also with the tourney ending with seeds 3, 8, 2, and 11 as the 4 final teams I think that's a pretty great spread and doesn't make it predictable.

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                                  • FearghalF
                                    Fearghal
                                    last edited by Fearghal

                                    RC III finished similarly with teams seeded 11, 1, 4 and 9 coming in 1st thru 4th.

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                                    • SpikeyNoobS
                                      SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @Fearghal
                                      last edited by

                                      @fearghal Thanks for the info and the chance to play. One more question, If i play in the lower rated tourny can i play (try to) play in the higher one aswell? Ofc i dont have much chance of being picked but hopefully by the time the next one comes around i will be good enough to possibly get drafted.

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                                        Sheikah @Fearghal
                                        last edited by

                                        @fearghal said in Rainbow Cup V & VI Tournaments:

                                        *Anyone know of a way to download a list of All 4 Players ratings standings in one database in list form,
                                        sort of like the way I stitched together these 2 lists, from last December.
                                        Would be nice to be able to get current standings list in one DB, or
                                        take snapshot of all the ratings side by side.

                                        Players Ratings.jpg

                                        You can just use the api at api.faforever.com/data/leaderboardRating

                                        The response is formatted as json api which there are plenty of libraries you can use to parse to a list. Request parameters are at https://api.faforever.com/swagger-ui/index.html?urls.primaryName=data#/leaderboardRating/get_leaderboardRating

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                                        • FearghalF
                                          Fearghal @SpikeyNoob
                                          last edited by Fearghal

                                          @spikeynoob
                                          Yes!
                                          Everyone is able to register to play in the RCVI open tournament, to be held end of February.

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                                          • FearghalF
                                            Fearghal
                                            last edited by Fearghal

                                            New Tournament Rating Calculating method
                                            to determine ratings of players with 1 rating above 1800, where
                                            there is a "small" sample size and
                                            Where the players next highest rating has a greater than 100 game history.
                                            The next highest rating - will "weigh" that rating with a 100 game weight.
                                            That Rating will be combined in proportion with the >1800 small sample rating as
                                            described below:

                                            Example:
                                            Use this formula, to find a Tournament Rating:
                                            (>1800 rating x small sample game total) + (Lower rating x 100 game weight) = (Multiplied ratings / combined game total) = New rating.

                                            Example of the One time this rule has been used "so far" in this tournament:
                                            Exselsior's new RC tournament rating will be
                                            (Glb) 1714 x 100 games + (4v4) 1874 x 26 games = 220384/126 = 1749 Combined adjusted rating

                                            Any Players with 2 ratings above 1800 will Not be able to participate in the <1,800 rating tournament.

                                            Remember >1,800 players....
                                            There is going to be another open Rainbow Cup at end of February where
                                            historically everyone above 1,800 has
                                            been picked to play in the 12 team, 3 man teams.
                                            Hope to see you soon in the next Open!

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