BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed only for FAF v26

Divangel

Hi Uveso. please tell me can i run it on vanilla? Or a lot of problems? I can edit the files if necessary. I tried to run a vanilla mod in a campaign but the scripts do not run = (

Uveso

Hello Divangel ,

no, sorry. The FAF version of the Black ops mod does not run outside of FAF.

There are many places where we patched the mod to get the latest FAF updates and changes included.
So we refactored almost every script and blueprint.

If you want to play Black ops on vanilla you need to use the old mod version:

BlackOpsACUs V10
http://faforever.uveso.de/forum/BlackOpsACUs.rar

BlackOpsUnleashed V10
http://faforever.uveso.de/forum/BlackOpsUnleashed.rar

BlackOpsEXUnits V4.1 (BlackOps Special Weapons)
http://faforever.uveso.de/forum/BlackOpsEXUnits.rar

BlackopsSupport V6.2 (Global icon support mod)
http://faforever.uveso.de/forum/BlackopsSupport.rar

greetings, Uveso.

Divangel

@Uveso Understood and accepted. Well, at least there is version 10, and it has clearly changed something.

Uveso

The old Black Ops mods version 10 are from my personal archive, last change was 21.08.2016
Its the latest version for Vanilla/Steam that exist.

Don't forget to check my updated-mod post. Most mods are compatible with FAF & Vanilla:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/364/updated-mods-for-faf-and-vanilla-steam

Divangel

@Uveso Perhaps it will be out of topic. but it's hard for me to search for anything since my native language is not English. What I was afraid of FAF was installed in the C : program date. What for? do you know how to change the folder? To install on other disks

Uveso

You can't change the ProgramData folder as far as i know.

Its the same folder like we had in Windows Xp C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\
The folder position was moved, in newer windows versions, to the root directory.

Divangel

@Uveso OK my friend. I studied the FAF and realized that it was not mine. It is tailored for multiplayer and I like to build a base for 3 hours long and hard =). And you can't save the game that's bad. I have not received such good feedback thanks.

Uveso

No, you don't need to play multiplayer at all.
Only use the FAF client to update your game.

To start the game, don't start the FAF client, just start the .exe in
C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe

Create a desctop shortcut and you can start the FAF version of the game like the normal vanilla game.

Divangel

@Uveso Well, if I move the game folder to another location, will it work?
C : \ ProgramData \ this is a bad place, on this ssd disk of windows, it does not need any external applications

Uveso

This is what microsoft says:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/user-profiles-and-logon/relocation-of-users-and-programdata-directories

Have in mind we can't help you if you change the folder and something went wrong.
(Windows updates, fixes, or service packs will no longer work)

DON'T DO IT!

Xathos

@uveso I'm not sure what you guys did in recent patches (3721+), but any unit using the Railgun01 projectile is borked. The particle effect won't go away, and it builds up in the sim, and lags the whole game. My last LAN game had the Citadel in it (via MCP, but I confirmed the problem on regular BlackOps game, too), and I had to constantly run the "Purge Projectiles" command in any attempt to try to finish the game.

Do you know of any short workaround outside of the obvious (banning units, etc)?

Jip

oh no - this is something we did. If I am correct the unit is the Citadel and it is part of Marlo's Compilation Pack?

Xathos

@jip As implied, the unit is originally from the BlackOps line of mods. Yes, it is the Citadel MK II.

The unitpack, I'm talking about where I noticed the issue from, is Mixed Combat Pack (MCP): https://github.com/SmalkiGroove/mcp-mod . MCP mixes together popular units, of various untipacks, and bugfixes/rebalances them together for one mod (TotalMayhem is notorious for having more powerful units vs. vanilla). My main interest in the mod is the backbone programming work he did, and notsomuch it being a convenient unitpack in one mod.

I did check over the BP file of his version of the Citadel, and it's fine. Here's a Winmerge report showing the differences: Citidel differences.7z . The left column is basically Uveso's BO release, and the right column is from MCP. The differences are just unit stats, and sourcing to make the unit work in his mod. And yes, I did follow-up on the Railgun01 files, and didn't see any differences there over Uveso's BO release.

I also mentioned running my standard mod array testing this (this doesn't include MCP - I only recently discovered it this past week). I ran a sandbox game, and this is where the screenshot came from. All those projectiles are "stuck".

I will see if any of my other mods are interfering with this, but I'm raising doubts. When I ran MCP, for my LAN session, the only other stuff running was basically QOL stuff. This seems to be something caused by the recent patches. I don't recall seeing this issue, beforehand, with the Citadel.

Jip

I'm quite confident that this is related to the patch and not mod interference. I'll investigate right away

Xathos

@jip Considering I know little about the FAF integration level, so, this is appreciated. The sooner a hotfix goes out, the happier I'll be.

All that I know is that the Railgun01 projectile isn't native to Supcom, and it's borked on units that use it.

Jip

@Xathos I have this scenario:

But it doesn't cause any issues. Could you reproduce the issue with 1 unit, fire one, and then show me the content of your game log? Nevermind, it is the AA gun:

WARNING: Error running OnImpact script in Entity /projectiles/tdfheavyplasmagatlingcannon01/tdfheavyplasmagatlingcannon01_proj.bp at 1bf7ad80: 0 radius specified.
         stack traceback:
         	[C]: in function `DamageArea'
         	...velop\supreme-commander\fa\lua\terranprojectiles.lua(863): in function <...velop\supreme-commander\fa\lua\terranprojectiles.lua:858>

It has to do with this, and therefore it has to do with the patch.

    OnImpact = function(self, targetType, targetEntity)
        local pos = self:GetPosition()
        local radius = self.DamageData.DamageRadius
        local FriendlyFire = self.DamageData.DamageFriendly and radius ~=0
        
        DamageArea( self, pos, radius, 1, 'Force', FriendlyFire )
        DamageArea( self, pos, radius, 1, 'Force', FriendlyFire )

        self.DamageData.DamageAmount = self.DamageData.DamageAmount - 2
        
        if targetType ~= 'Shield' and targetType ~= 'Water' and targetType ~= 'Air' and targetType ~= 'UnitAir' and targetType ~= 'Projectile' and targetType ~= 'Unit' then
            local rotation = RandomFloat(0,2*math.pi)
            local army = self.Army
            
            CreateDecal(pos, rotation, 'scorch_001_albedo', '', 'Albedo', radius, radius, 70, 30, army)
        end
        
        MultiPolyTrailProjectile.OnImpact(self, targetType, targetEntity)
    end,

The issue is that we do not check the radius here - we expect that to be something else than 0. I'm going to discuss with Keyser whether this is something we should fix, or whether it is the mod that should fix it.

DDDX

@uveso so why is v18 still in the Vault, should it not be this one?

Uveso

@Jip
this should be fixed inside FAF.

Adding "DamageRadius = 1," inside modded unit blueprints does not work (still outputs 0 as radius)
self.DamageData.DamageRadius or 1` is also not working because the DamageData defaults the radius to 0 when its not existend.

Kind of funny:

        local FriendlyFire = self.DamageData.DamageFriendly and radius ~=0
        DamageArea( self, pos, radius, 1, 'Force', FriendlyFire )

FriendlyFire is only true if radius is not 0, and the function crashes when radius is 0. Nice ^^

@DDDX
Are you talking about Black Ops ACU v18 or Black Ops Unleashed V19 ?

DDDX

well...I am looking at the mods listed in FAF when I type in "Blackops", Unleashed has last been updated 12/20/2020 and it says v18.

Is there a v19 in the Vault that is not showing there? I mean, I might be wrong here, but I do not see it.

When I host, I host v19 though.

Uveso

Hmm i see unleashed v19 in the vault !?!