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    Why not use STEAM NETWORK to improve connection?

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    • maudlin27M Online
      maudlin27
      last edited by

      If that was the only barrier then I’m guessing it could be resolved by having users consent to the data being shared with Epic

      M27AI and M28AI developer:
      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v81-devlog
      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v294
      M28 trophy holders: Radde, Yew (Radde trophy, v285) and Zwaffel (Sladow trophy, v284)

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      • NOC-N Offline
        NOC-
        last edited by

        Yeah but currently you have existing database who would be signing up to a whole new set of terms. You cant force them to do that

        Ras Boi's save lives.

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        • I Offline
          IamFromRussia @NOC-
          last edited by IamFromRussia

          @NOC said in Why not use STEAM NETWORK to improve connection?:

          Other than the fact you will have to share the entire user database likely with EPIC.
          Therefore violating GDPR

          As I understand it, it is not necessary...

          We can use your own OAuth 2.0 provider for player authentication in EOS, but only under certain conditions, using EOS Connect’s "Custom Identity Provider" feature.

          from chatgpt) :

          🔐 Example: GDPR-Safe Token Payload
          A simple JWT token that Epic can use, but contains no PII:

          {
          "sub": "user-12345", // epic user ID, its not real faf user name
          "iss": "https://your.auth.server",
          "exp": 1720000000
          }
          That’s it. You can keep it clean and anonymous.

          We will associate each user with an epic id by which epic servers will connect players. We will not transmit any other data.

          In order to connect users, it is enough to have an epic user id assigned to each player in faf. The assignment will be performed on our servers and it is not necessary to provide any information about the users.

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          • Brutus5000B Online
            Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
            last edited by

            So now every user also needs to create an epic account?

            He said, "I've been to the year 3000
            Not much has changed, but they live underwater
            And your great-great-great-granddaughter
            Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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            • NOC-N Offline
              NOC-
              last edited by

              And then there is the GDPR issue with Epic accounts

              Ras Boi's save lives.

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              • I Offline
                IamFromRussia @Brutus5000
                last edited by IamFromRussia

                @Brutus5000 Looks too good to be true. I was looking for a catch, but I didn't find one.
                No epic account required...
                https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/dev-portal/identity-provider-management
                alt text

                Honestly, if I had to create an Epic Games account for this, I'd happily do it considering how many features they offer for FREE. An epic games account is created in a couple clicks.
                https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/epic-online-services/eos-overview

                I will quickly describe all the features of EOS

                • Lobbies
                • Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Connections
                • Stats
                • Leaderboards
                • Voice Chat 🔥
                • Reports
                • and more.....
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                • NOC-N Offline
                  NOC-
                  last edited by

                  oh god one reason there alone not to. Voice comms
                  Im sorry I do not want to hear the 12 man dual gap russian voice coms

                  Ras Boi's save lives.

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                    Nuggets FAF Association Board @NOC-
                    last edited by

                    @NOC said in Why not use STEAM NETWORK to improve connection?:

                    oh god one reason there alone not to. Voice comms
                    Im sorry I do not want to hear the 12 man dual gap russian voice coms

                    I would

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                    • nullptrN Offline
                      nullptr
                      last edited by

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                        Surfer @IamFromRussia
                        last edited by

                        @BerserKK-
                        Implementing EPIC/Steam networking is not a technical problem, its simply a lack of desire from the community.
                        I was working on the Steam adapter prototype, but it hit a dead-end.
                        Players don't wanna spend their time on testing. FAF-devs afraid of DCMA takedown and don't even considering to integrate your work.

                        This conversation is pointless until you have clear proof that there is no copyright violation or permission from the game's owners.

                        @ZLO

                        Worst part would be that it will be another community split as steam and FAF players

                        There will be no split, there is just not enough population xD
                        Making a backup client, just in case, is soo frustrating when you know no one will use it while FAF is operational.

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                        • DeribusD Offline
                          Deribus Moderator
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                          I think we're all generally agreed that sure @BerserKK if you build a working prototype then we'll take a look. But nobody else is interested in rewriting FAF on a completely different connection infrastructure.

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