Coop missions intermittent lag
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Hello
I tried to play the coop missions today for the nice nostalgia feeling of struggling against the AI but in every mission I launched I would get intermittent freezes. Every 4-5 seconds the game would freeze for roughly1-2 seconds. Does anyone know what is causing it? Is it something I am doing wrong? My PC should be able to handle it based on the fact it plays fill 1v7 skirmish matches with massive amounts of units without a significant drop in performance.
Any help would be appreciated thank you.
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Based on your description, can you make sure it is not related to the 'id3dxeffectcompiler' issue like here: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/8651/crash-upon-faf-client-create-game-start-up-id3dxeffectcompiler-compilation-failed
Otherwise, make sure to enable debugger in the FAF client, reproduce the issue and share the game.log, please.
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Hello, I powered through a game for a bit after my post and noticed the game only freezes when there is dialog or banter from the characters. It was so bad at the start of the missions because all the npc's keeps talking but after the start it's only the objective reminders and banter that makes it freeze. It's still very jarring so I'll look at your suggestion thank you.
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Hi, I just encountered the same problem. We did a 4p coop mission and the game freezes/lag spikes during and then after any dialog. The only thing different is I just upgraded to a new computer. Old one was i7 with a 1080Ti, Win10 and the new one is AMD9800X3D with a 4070Super, Win11.
Debug was on. #24159116 for the replay. game_24159116.log -
@magge See the reply above, and may be linked to https://forum.faforever.com/topic/8601/game-freezing-for-a-few-seconds-whenever-a-video-is-played/8
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Yes, you are right. Thanks for the ping.
I still have no idea what 'recent change' causes the freezing/stuttering, nor do I know how to reproduce it. Hopefully, when more people report it, we find a pattern.
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@magge Hi Magge,
We're still having these problems and it means that playing Coop in missions that have a lot of these intro cutscenes and frequent reminders about objectives is nearly unplayable. We've tried "%s" /nomovie in the command line for all clients but it doesn't stop these in-mission "cutscenes".
Any progress or other reports about the cause? Is there anything we can do to help diagnose the bug?
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AFAIK, no one is sure what caused it suddenly, and there is no fix expected anytime soon.
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Do you run the campaign with any mods enabled? If so, try turning those off. In other cases, please try and see if you can make a recording of the behavior. Also observe your task manager. Is the resource usage spiking, as an example?
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@Jip Only the mods that are bundled with the coop missions (usually none) because we want to get on the leaderboards.
I booted a solo game up to get a recording for you but it doesn't freeze/stutter/lag for me. Which means either its >1p situations, or my friend's computer(s) that are the problem. I will get them to test individually.
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I can confirm that I have also had the same issue when playing with a friend. The Issue seems connected to the in-game "taunts" and other voiced videos. It seems to get worse if the camera also needs to "pan". And sometimes results in "crashes"/"freezes".
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3 of us total. Only 1 of us has the issue, and he says it's both single and multiplayer.
The 2 of us who don't have the issue are fine when it's only us in the game.
The problem player has a 2080Ti. The other 2 of us have a 4070Super and a 2060. -
I had a similar issue personally, but it stopped when I ran the faf client as an admin + 4 core affinity.
This didn't resolve the issue for my friend though. He says that there is no lag when running the campaign directly in steam, IE not with FAF.
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@Phoenix_NZ What is the spec, both CPU and GPU of the user with issues?
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I am having the exact same issue. The game ran fine for years on my old Windows 10 machine, running on an i7 and 1070. However after upgrading Windows 11 with a 9800X3D and 4070-Super the coop missions always lags out and eventually freeze during cutscenes (basically whenever an NPC dialogue box pops up). This also forces me to restart my PC as I cannot close, minimize or tab out of the frozen game window, which is stuck on top of everything else, including task manager.
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User with problems:
- i9 9900k + 2080Ti + Win10
Users without problems:
- i7 3770k + 1080Ti + Win10 (my old computer but this was also before the December client update)
- i9 9900k + 2060 + Win10
- 9800X3D + 4070Super + Win11
All users running latest graphics drivers
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@N0ld0r Hello, i also encountered this a while ago. afaik, it's a nvidia driver issue. and a later driver update fixed it. it's not only faf, but also affacted fa/sc. i got 3 pc installed fa, then one day i just noticed the lag. initially, i suspeceted win11 updates. later, i read some nvidia related threads. so i turned to the only pc with amd video card, and found that machine was fine.
later, nvidia issued a new update, i installed and the problem gone. the pc with problem had 2080 and 10603g respectively. 6650xt on was fine.
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I don't think it's driver related, or at least not only driver related. For me the issue resolved itself when I started running the faf client as admin, and for my friend we last night updated his nvidia-drivers to the latest, and the problem persisted.
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The friend with the problem has reinstalled his graphics drivers and FAF, and that has not solved his problems. I guess we'll try running FAF as admin next. I've also asked him to download the borderless gaming app on steam, since I know for me that at least solved crashing on alt-tabbing by accident...
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Some update from my friend, when we switched his windows power plan setting from Balanced to High Performance, the lag was vastly reduced. So might be related to how windows scheduler handles the loading of files from the OS or something like that (assuming this task is delegated to a background thread). Worth trying for anyone else with the issue
