@sylph_ said in The Problems With The UEF - Part 2 (ACU Billy Nuke Upgrade):
Is the rough point about the UEF, then, the fact that they are unable to beat artillery? (Since artillery beats the fatboy and percivals?)
If so, do ythothas and monkeylord do that much better against artillery?
(Not a rhetorical question - I'm legitimately interested in understanding)
If I may answer...
Every other Experimental has every advantage going for it.
They all have much higher damage - as they are all direct fire,
higher speed - reducing the time it takes to get to the artillery,
but most importantly, a much Higher HP pool.
The next closest experimental in HP as compared to the Fatboy is the Monkeylord, yet the ML has an extra ~ 13,000 HP. And not to mention, Stealth, too.
And again, the aforementioned advantages in speed, damage, and Health.
Cost is also a factor. Fatboy is the most expensive land T4, only being 2nd to the Megalith.
Even if speed and damage were nearly identical, the sheer difference in HP is far too great.
Ythothas, Megaliths, and the Galactic Colossus, all have so much HP, that they could just waltz right into them without much care.
Every unit has its place, but some just have more wiggle room- allowing them to be far more flexible in multiple environments and situations.
A GC and Ythotha are almost always good investments but a Fatboy?
Far too niche, I'd say.
The investment is almost never worth it.
And even if it was - for the one time everything is going for it - it'll take a minute to chew through the armies and defenses.
The Fatboy is only relatively decent for defending.
But as someone once said, "You can't win a game by defending".
Finally, could it be the case that the reason this struggle against artillery exists, might be because of all the FaF nerfs to mobile shields?
Partially, but the Fatboy is too wide of a target. And the Shield... even bigger.
Artillery shells that would've otherwise missed would either collide with the Shield - damaging all other shields too, directly or indirectly due to spillover damage - or it would hit the Fatboy, and since it's so large, the unit would take damage.
Even if the shields could cover the Fatboy - which they only partially do - the Fatboy's shield is far too big, meaning it's almost always exposed somewhere which means it will likely still take damage even if a Parashield blocks it.
So, if the Fatboy still takes damage when shielded with mobile shields and when not shielded, then what's the point?
It's a waste of mass.
Apologies for the long replies.
Sometimes, there's too much to say about something, and to save you some time, I'll stop here.
Otherwise, I'd go on for another 3000 words.
Also... This isn't the Fatboy thread.
~ Stryker