Developers patch 3745 - 3748

Jip

The draft of the changelog can be found in the third post:

https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4705/upcoming-developers-patch/3

It also contains a reference to the list of soon-to-be deprecated mods. Mod authors can update their mods to make it compatible again. I've notified the authors that I could find.

Blade_Walker

This is looking great! can see a ton of work has gone into this update and thanks in advance to those who have put in the effort.

Seeing EM being one of the deprecated mods, reminded me of one the small quality of life changes it included which could perhaps be considered for FAF itself.

That is, assisting a paused mex with engineers, will unpause that mex so that its built in build power doesn't go to waste. I know it is common for players to shift click paused mexes with a group of engineers, this would simply make the process more efficient.

Jip

@black_wriggler said in Upcoming developers patch:

This is looking great! can see a ton of work has gone into this update and thanks in advance to those who have put in the effort.

Seeing EM being one of the deprecated mods, reminded me of one the small quality of life changes it included which could perhaps be considered for FAF itself.

That is, assisting a paused mex with engineers, will unpause that mex so that its built in build power doesn't go to waste. I know it is common for players to shift click paused mexes with a group of engineers, this would simply make the process more efficient.

Yes - but a small quality of life improvement like that would also make for a perfect small UI mod. It is sad to deprecate economy manager simply because one feature of the dozens of features that it contains is causing command feedback to disappear with this latest patch. UI mods specifically are perfect candidates for one-mod-one-feature, and it would make them a lot more future proof too.

Blade_Walker

@jip I guess I was looking at it from the point of view of these UI mods giving some players advantages, hence making for example the mass fab management inherent to the game

If I am using this 'feature' then it means my t2 mex upgrades can finish faster than someone who isn't. we already have auto-ring with right click as an option, having auto-unpause seems like it would be in similar category

Jip

The patch is out, you can find the complete changelog here:

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/releases/tag/3745

@Black_Wriggler We have integrated mass fabrication management; they automatically turn on / off depending on your current energy status. Besides that, what is and is not an advantage is a bit of a grey area. As you state yourself, UI mods can do so much that it can almost play the game for you at times.

The entire thing is a bit of a sensitive topic, as it is clear to me that Advanced Target Priorities provides a clear advantage over players who do not have it. But not everyone agrees on that for all sorts of reasons.

deletethis

Great work with this patch!

I can see from github that the range rings at mouse location from additionalCameraStuff were merged ( #3692) but in the last game I played I didn't find the option to enable it, would appreciate some guidance.

edit: thanks for answering @Sheikah! For anyone else looking for said mod, the name is actually Build Range Preview, author is Sheikah

Sheikah

@deletethis said in Upcoming developers patch:

Great work with this patch!

I can see from github that the range rings at mouse location from additionalCameraStuff were merged ( #3692) but in the last game I played I didn't find the option to enable it, would appreciate some guidance.

That didn't make it in unfortunately but a mod Build Range Preview provides the functionality for the new patch

T_R_U_putin

did anyone tested the last patch?
if u will spawn hyves for example in sandbox with cheating - u will lose control on UI. the only way is to select anything to build by com.
ahwassa does not attack the target - clickin on unit selects ahwassa's ground fire option

Jip

@t_r_u_putin said in Upcoming developers patch:

ahwassa does not attack the target - clickin on unit selects ahwassa's ground fire option

It doesn't go into ground fire, it still targets the unit when you click on a unit. It just shows you the splash damage too now.

if u will spawn hyves for example in sandbox with cheating - u will lose control on UI. the only way is to select anything to build by com.

Yeah, this is fixed with:

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/4367

Will be part of the next hotfix, but is not critical. You can also reset it by trying to place down a ping.

fractal

how can you release a patch that changes the key management of the game and not make announcements in the client's news feed?

I see a lot of questions in the chat that a lot of mods don't work, ACU doesn't listen!

all sorts of unnecessary shit there is full of weeks and where is the necessary information?

Jip

The information on what UI mods that we're aware of are at the bottom of the changelog:

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/releases/tag/3745

The same log is shown in-game when you enter the lobby after a new patch is released. That was your announcement. It is mentioned in the text at the top that this list is at the bottom of the changelog.

The game plays with no errors when you play with no UI mods. The only exception at the moment may be target priorities, which was significantly adjusted the day before the patch because of a remote code execution (RCE).

@fractal Best to disable them one by one and find out which ones are no longer compatible. Shouldn't take you more then fifteen minutes, even when you have 15+ UI mods.

Unknow

Please link integrated mods to its newly options in client

T_R_U_putin

@jip this ahwassa change is unneseecary. even more it make difficulties on retargeting to other unit - splash radius hide image.
i really hate it. pitty that there were no voting on that.

Jip

@t_r_u_putin said in Upcoming developers patch:

@jip this ahwassa change is unneseecary. even more it make difficulties on retargeting to other unit - splash radius hide image.
i really hate it. pitty that there were no voting on that.

I don't understand why people think this is 'how it is' now. If you think it is a bad change then I'll see if we can make it optional. Or maybe we can improve the attack reticules themselves as at the moment they are just a white circle texture.

Jip

@unknow said in Upcoming developers patch:

Please link integrated mods to its newly options in client

They're not fully integrated, they are primarily deprecated (incompatible) with the current patch. You can find everything we introduced into the game in the changelog:

UI authors are already updating their UI mods - it will just take time. Two examples are Crotalus and Eternal - more will likely follow.

maudlin27

Ive not had a chance to test today’s patch yet but the discord announcement mentions preventing sharing resources via diplomacy and to use the scorecard instead. Has this been tested on coop as in a coop game yesterday (ie pre patch) the teammates’ resources didnt show in the scoreboard so the only way to share was via the diplomacy menu

Jip

Ah - well there will be a second hot fix. Yesterday's hot fix fixed the biggest issues. The next hot fix will launch somewhere next weekend, we'll look into the issues we had with the resources button for that fix.

NOC-

So if I change the settings to what is advised for previous reclaim view why is it still fucked?

BlackYps

Attach a screenshot. I have no idea what "fucked" is supposed to mean

NOC-

Half the reclaim still does not show up

Where you hold ctrl and shift to show reclaim areas.
Before it would show all the values.
Now even after disabling the batch thing, half the trees dont show up or rocks until you zoom in soo close your basically staring at a tree.

Zoomed out
The red area.

Same area now just zoomed in.

Now it shows everything.
Note this is not a reclaim value issue as they are the same reclaim values.
This has only been an issue since the latest update which still has not been disclosed as to the reason for the reclaim change.

If I zoom out half the reclaim does not even show now.
Like why.

Batching is set to off the other values are set to what is advised.