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    • UvesoU
      Uveso @SusSusAmogus
      last edited by Uveso

      @sussusamogus said in Accessing OS in LUA code for creating a mod:

      Hi there!
      I have some ideas for FAF mods that require executing external script

      Can you give us/me an example?
      what kind of mod or function you have in mind?

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        SusSusAmogus @Uveso
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        @uveso I thought about machine learning and neural networks utilization. AFAIK, there's no e.g. tensorflow distribution for lua.

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        • SpikeyNoobS
          SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @Brutus5000
          last edited by

          @brutus5000 could someone patch the engine to make some outside interaction possible?

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          • BlackYpsB
            BlackYps
            last edited by

            Permitting outside interaction would open the gates for malware

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              SusSusAmogus @BlackYps
              last edited by SusSusAmogus

              @blackyps that's all very understandable. However textures, sounds and effects can be bundled using mods.

              Maybe it could be possible to provide modders with possibility of including some "trusted" scripts into their mods too? Such mods could be double-checked by community, moderators and marked as "unsafe" in storage...

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              • SpikeyNoobS
                SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @BlackYps
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                @blackyps i would not like to see it done for normal games, but if it was possible using some ML for an ai would be quite cool. Even if its not used outside of a dev environment.

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                  SusSusAmogus
                  last edited by SusSusAmogus

                  At least file IO would be very helpful and (potentially) not very harmful. Like reading from a file packaged along with a mod - what can go wrong with that?..

                  HTTP IO would be even better. Just like sending and receiving simple JSON requests - no js scripts and stuff...

                  Let me know if you decide to implement it - I can provide any support needed!

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                  • Brutus5000B
                    Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
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                    Writing Io is super dangerous. A harmful or buggy mod could overwrite files or flood the disk.
                    Reading http during the game is also dangerous , because requests can fail (=desync) or take longer (=lag).

                    The lua engine is hardcoded into the engine. A few experts tried updating it with a newer version for performance improvements, but despite many years of trying it does not work.

                    He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                    Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                    And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                    Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                    • Ctrl-KC
                      Ctrl-K
                      last edited by Ctrl-K

                      @Brutus5000 Well, the current game implementation actually doesn't protect you from flooding a disk (screenshot command) or checking for file existanse in sim may cause desync or creating too many logs causing lags. IO will make it only less complicated at this point.

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                      • JipJ
                        Jip
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                        We won't introduce additional IO functionality. As Brutus states, it is extremely dangerous. @Genos is technically correct that we can already flood the disk, but that isn't an argument to open up more IO functionality.

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