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    • ThomasHiattT Offline
      ThomasHiatt
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      I like mapgen and hardffa a lot in ladder. I have more fun on even the worst mapgen maps than I do on most of the authored maps in the pool.

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      • S Offline
        SanguisAter
        last edited by

        I just love playing on mapgen maps! It feels like a whole new dimension to the game.

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        • BlackheartB Offline
          Blackheart
          last edited by

          I also enjoyed the showmatch vs Petric even though it had some bugs for the unexplored mode. In general I do absolutely think that mapgen should become the standard in future tournaments and in general the standard for competition. It takes the game back to economic and strategic decisions and does not allow you to patch up bad on-the-fly decisions with studying 25 replays and spending hours creating 25 BOs.

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          • tatsuT Offline
            tatsu
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            Yeah the minor quirks that I do get (1 pixel of sea in the corner of the map, so random!!) are in no way game breaking and generally the layouts and mass distribution is just amazingly good for interesting and dynamic gameplay.

            why only 10-12% of chance to get mapgen, may I ask?

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            • S Offline
              Sheikah
              last edited by

              That one pixel of sea is not actually a bug and is a holdover as a solution from when the black plane bug appeared on maps. Just as an FYI.

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              • tatsuT Offline
                tatsu
                last edited by

                oh ok! thanks! I also had mountains that were so low they ended up being partially pathable.

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                • S Offline
                  Sheikah
                  last edited by

                  those are probably just hills and are not supposed to look like mountains and I need to make that clearer

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                  • tatsuT Offline
                    tatsu
                    last edited by

                    oh ok. but why bother with hills at all? let's just have either 100% mountain or 100% plain.

                    I say that's better for gameplay

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                    • FemtoZettaF Offline
                      FemtoZetta @tatsu
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                      • S Offline
                        Sheikah
                        last edited by

                        The hills allow for different gameplay interactions somewhat and also break up the visual monotony. Earlier versions had no hills and it was mentioned that adding mild hills would be a decent addition.

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                        • FtXCommandoF Offline
                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by FtXCommando

                          Hills allow for the tradeoffs between units to shift and introduce another factor into calculating how to play a matchup. For example, artillery can become viable to mix into unit mixes much earlier if they're being sent to an area where hills provide cover from direct fire. It also makes it possible to attack pd that was placed poorly or keep things like radar safer.

                          It also makes any sort of large impassable terrain much easier to look at. I'm not even "the aesthetics guy" but I don't think there is very much more awkward in this game that having a straight 90 degree impassable slope rise out of entirely flat ground. It's obnoxious and immediately makes you think "this is a game" when you see it.

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                          • ThomasHiattT Offline
                            ThomasHiatt
                            last edited by

                            This is a game.

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                            • FtXCommandoF Offline
                              FtXCommando
                              last edited by

                              That's crazy, why has there been a general trend toward moving into hyperrealism in most games? To the point we have now peaked with intentionally not fun game mechanics in Death Stranding 4head.

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                              • epic-bennisE Offline
                                epic-bennis Banned
                                last edited by

                                How about a separate queue for random maps with separate rating. I think that would tickle many people's ambitions.

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                                • Z Offline
                                  Zokora
                                  last edited by

                                  I would really like a ladder MMR only for random maps. At least test it how people respond to it.

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                                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                    FtXCommando
                                    last edited by FtXCommando

                                    There would hardly be enough variance between RMG and premade ladder to warrant yet another TrueSkill.

                                    The two systems I’d say are viable are:
                                    2 queues, one premade one not, both using the same rating.

                                    1 queue, using premade maps for lower rated players to make the transition of learning the game easier and then transitioning to RMG in higher rated pools.

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                                    • epic-bennisE Offline
                                      epic-bennis Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      Just add it. What's the fucking harm. It's literally just another button and a new table. And I guarantee you that people will love it, will start grinding up their random map rating and will be like : Hur dur random map skill best skills .

                                      Just do it it's a good idea and don't be complicated ftx.

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                                      • BlackYpsB Offline
                                        BlackYps
                                        last edited by

                                        Actually it's less complicated to not add another rating

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                                        • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                          FtXCommando
                                          last edited by

                                          What's the harm? What's the benefit. A person isn't losing 400 rating because he plays random map gen rather than premade maps, regardless of how much some people overvalue their "versatility" against "no life bo farmers." This is about ladder players that play rotated pools of maps they have no control over. Not a dude farming Loki in custom games for 1000 games.

                                          This is a question of reordering the ratings between 5 or 10 players already right next door to one another in rating. Introducing a new rating to accommodate this is a waste of time and a waste of space.

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                                          • epic-bennisE Offline
                                            epic-bennis Banned
                                            last edited by epic-bennis

                                            It's fun, it will promote activity and it's easy to implement. Why not??

                                            It's literally a low hanging fruit.

                                            Maybe the next player councillor will take care of it...

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