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    DDoS and now something new again?

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    • Sladow-NoobS Offline
      Sladow-Noob
      last edited by Sladow-Noob

      Same here during the second game with farms etc. while he was streaming (prob like 2 weeks ago)

      Inactive.

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        Kilatamoro
        last edited by Kilatamoro

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          rampeer
          last edited by rampeer

          I feel like it got really worse last week. Ping timing out some time after the start of the game.

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            rampeer
            last edited by

            Just had trouble connecting to FAF / FAF forums desping having perfect connection to 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9

            Change instructions, please?

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              Tpycuku_B_KpoBu
              last edited by Tpycuku_B_KpoBu

              I've encountered the same problem. When I enter the lobby, the game starts, and after a minute, I lose connection with all the players. If I go to the router settings, it shows that the download speed is 100 Mbps, and the upload speed is not significant. It takes a couple of minutes or a router reboot to restore the connection.

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              • RobogearR Offline
                Robogear
                last edited by Robogear

                Russian streamers have not been able to play normally since about February of this year, in 90% of games players start to drop out in the first 3-5 minutes of the game, just one by one, sometimes the streamer's internet drops out too (including me) and it looks like they've taken on all players now and not just breaking streamers' games
                You can just look at the average game length of my replays this year to see for yourself

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                  Sainse Balance Team
                  last edited by

                  I didn't experience any connection issues related to me for a very long time. Today I played 1 game together with Robogear. It got ddosed 6 mins into the game (with an extra 3 minutes pause) #25499255. After that I've fully rebooted PC, yet another ddosed, the one when players loosing connection with seemingly everyone happened in the very next game #25499413

                  My ping with google.com didn't exceed 200 ms in any of those games (I'm constantly runniung gping in background)

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                  • NeytronN Offline
                    Neytron
                    last edited by Neytron

                    this happened recently, I went into the game and after 4 minutes I started losing connection with everyone, faf was disconnected and the internet just didn't work, I couldn't open YouTube, twitch, check my internet speed, absolutely nothing worked, after 15 minutes passed, and I went into the game again, and again at 15+- minutes the same thing happened and the situation didn't improve until I reset my router settings

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                    • LimeZ3_L Offline
                      LimeZ3_
                      last edited by

                      Same here. I have a friend of mine with an HBO in network security, and as soon as he saw my router logs, he said its DEFINATELLY a targeted attack on a known IP address
                      It really hurt me today because only today I learned that my provider issues a dynamic IP for 1 day, and I cant change it myself
                      I'm in the Netherlands, so there's 0 hope to call my provider and ask him to change my ip when its 21 o clock, so my internet is basically dead until tomorrow.
                      I played a game of faf 1.5 hours ago. Just a usuall 6v6. Then I see that I start lagging. My friend's voices on discord become robotic, my stream drops, and then ultimatelly I timeout to all other players in the game. 30 minutes in a match. And now I can still see that the attack continues and my home wifi is battling for its life. And its been over 1.5 hours since I disconnected from faf altogether.
                      It restores connection for 1 or 2 minutes and then its dead again for like 10 minutes or so
                      I guess Ill have to use mobile hotspot until tomorrow

                      Playing faf with the possibility that my network dies altogether for days is out of the question, so I'm dropping this game until these dos attack issues are proven to be fixed

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                        LimeZ3_
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                        • NeytronN Offline
                          Neytron @Robogear
                          last edited by

                          @Robogear sorry but it is impossible to play with you much longer than since February, this is done by one of your viewers, I don't remember the last time I could play with you, even 2 years ago, I was already attacked on your stream, I don't blame you, it's not your fault that there are such people, I just mean that this problem was much earlier than February of this year

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                          • LimeZ3_L Offline
                            LimeZ3_ @LimeZ3_
                            last edited by

                            Can share my router's logs if someone thinks it might be useful to resolve the issue

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                              Nuggets FAF Association Board @LimeZ3_
                              last edited by

                              @LimeZ3_ i dont know how it is in the netherlands, but for me my ip changes on router reboot

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                                Nuggets FAF Association Board
                                last edited by

                                This is kind of a massive issue. The attacker(s) can find out everyone's ip without being in the game itself and without connecting to the lobby (as i had restrictions enabled). So I assume people can find out the ip via chat in faf (as was the case once before a while ago).
                                Ofc i dont know this for certain, so take this with a grain of salt. I believe we cant even disconnect from the chat on purpose, there is only the option reconmect

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                                  Kilatamoro @Nuggets
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                                  @Nuggets One could damage their connection, thus disconnecting from FAF and chat, and then only reconnect to FAF.

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                                    Sturmgewehr @Nuggets
                                    last edited by

                                    @Nuggets said in DDoS and now something new again?:

                                    This is kind of a massive issue. The attacker(s) can find out everyone's ip without being in the game itself and without connecting to the lobby (as i had restrictions enabled).

                                    If I didn't know better, I would say it's the live replay, where you can watch as an observer with a delay of a few minutes.

                                    When you read about people's experiences, it's usually during these 3-5 minutes that there are in-game problems.

                                    Are the IPs transmitted when connecting to a live replay, or can someone intercept them?

                                    This particular problem doesn't seem to exist in matchmaking (at least one person has written about this).
                                    I don't play matchmaking (ladder) myself, only global. So custom games.
                                    In other words, what is displayed as a live replay.

                                    Perhaps the live replay should be disabled on a trial basis.

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                                      Kilatamoro @Sturmgewehr
                                      last edited by Kilatamoro

                                      @Sturmgewehr Matchmaker games are present in live replays.

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                                        Sturmgewehr @Kilatamoro
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                                        @Kilatamoro said in DDoS and now something new again?:

                                        @Sturmgewehr I am pretty sure matchmaker games are also in live replays. Why wouldn't they be?

                                        The attacker must be getting the IPs from somewhere during ongoing games.
                                        If it's from the chat system, he could attack all IPs at once. But it happens a few minutes after a game has started.
                                        So he must know when a game has started, and he could find that out via the live replays (how else?).
                                        Perhaps matchmaking (ladder) games are not attacked because there are too few players/too little effect, because there are few players in a match and it's not worth it?

                                        Who knows, there must be some motivation behind it.
                                        At least I can say that custom games with +10 players are very often attacked.

                                        If they are attacks. No one is commenting on the situation.

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                                          Kilatamoro @Sturmgewehr
                                          last edited by

                                          @Sturmgewehr People say he attacks games with specific players, like streamers.

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                                          • Brutus5000B Offline
                                            Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
                                            last edited by

                                            Our IRC should not expose ips. The live-replay server surely does not expose ips.
                                            However, if you are in a custom lobby and someone connects to you, then you expose your IP for da direct p2p connection.

                                            He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                                            Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                                            And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                                            Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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