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    Fast start mod idea: Free instant factory of your choice

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    • ? Offline
      A Former User
      last edited by

      Stolen from Zero-K.

      Lets you build 1st factory of your choice instantly for free.

      Since the default fast start is weird.

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      • JipJ Offline
        Jip
        last edited by

        I like the idea of being able to just select where the prebuilt units are created, instead of the pre-fixed positions that you have no control over at the moment.

        A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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        • maudlin27M Offline
          maudlin27
          last edited by

          A combination of the two could be a temporary huge build speed buff for the ACU that ends on the sooner of it constructing a unit; 15s; or starting construction on its 3rd unit.
          I.e. the build speed buff would allow a similar effect to choosing where the prebuilt unit (factory) gets built. The other conditions are to reduce the risk of abuse (e.g. getting a bunch of mexes and t1 pgens to 90% completion to avoid the build speed buff expiring).

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          • FtXCommandoF Offline
            FtXCommando
            last edited by

            speed buff means you produce less resources as you build the fac which will likely cause large stalls or needing your acu to remain idle

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            • IndexLibrorumI Offline
              IndexLibrorum Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Give the player unlimited resources for the same time duration, so the buildings are free?

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              • D Offline
                Defiant
                last edited by

                Temporary Build power and resources tweaks also mean that ACU rotation time will become crucial.

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                • maudlin27M Offline
                  maudlin27
                  last edited by

                  If it’s possible to give extra storage as a temporary buff that could get around the issue (eg if it takes 60s normally to build a land fac then you’d increase max mass storage by 120 and ensure it’s filled at the start of the game)

                  M27AI and M28AI developer; Devlogs and more general AI development guide:
                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v150

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                  • CaptainKlutzC Offline
                    CaptainKlutz
                    last edited by

                    Unlimited build speed and resource buff until a certain amount of mass is spent?

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                    • ZLOZ Offline
                      ZLO
                      last edited by

                      i am ok with this idea if it is gonna be optional
                      30 seconds while factory is building is often not enough to think about your BO, check your allies and their factions, assign roles, check reclaim, decide who take what mex and who drops where, whos gonna make t1 air and who does not... tho ofc if you are playing air fac 1rst you will need to decide that before game or for like 1 second.
                      decide where your engies gonna be going...

                      how to fix resource problem? just discount the amount of resources that ACU produces for the time that you need to make a factory.
                      also there are maps where you start in water.
                      there are maps where you have "desired" factory position kinda blocked by commander so you need to choose between moving and placing factory in non-cool position
                      That also removes plays where two people could make factory together
                      also that messes with the BO with 1rst pgen
                      and on crazyrush you often start with pgen.
                      on super mass-poor maps you can start with mex

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