Offering a draw should not result in rating changes

@indexlibrorum said in Offering a draw should not result in rating changes:

@comradestryker I thought it was already a thing that if a game was finished within a certain time, it would not be rated?

I believe that goes for Global games only, not TMM games.
TMM games are rated immediately from the start.

I could be wrong, however.

~ Stryker

@comradestryker Oh no, I think you're correct.

There are two types of draws. There are the standard draws from gameplay outcomes, which should be rated. And there are what are defined as “mutual draws” which are an unrank condition. For whatever reason, the draw menu for tmm wasn’t given the latter.

@ftxcommando Possibly an easy fix, then?

Man, I totally agree with this. Nothing feels worse than to draw out of common decency just to get hit with -9. I also can't think of a situation where you would draw in faf because the game is in a stalemate. Normal ELO rules do not work for draws in faf. It should just be an unrate button.

• Peenutzzz

@peenutzzz said in Offering a draw should not result in rating changes:

I also can't think of a situation where you would draw in faf because the game is in a stalemate. Normal ELO rules do not work for draws in faf. It should just be an unrate button.

ACU gun fight with less than 2500 hp difference between both.

It should be an easy fix, yeah.

Could we have an option to be used when a player disconnects, something like Null Game. It would also be good in usage as it would help track games that fail due to DC and as such you could spot the players who are the constant cause.

Just draw a game because 1 guy disconnects in minute 1 and the guy in question wins 42 points and I lost 9
don't want to force a 2 vs 3 next time, but it is totally unfair that I lost points because enemy team have 1 disconnect
#20224019

I haven't heard from any of the devs that this was going te get picked up. Anyone got an update?

We have a distinct lack of active python devs, so I doubt it will be picked up anytime soon

@blackyps I thought everything was Lua and stuff. Who wrote the recall feature?

@indexlibrorum said in Offering a draw should not result in rating changes:

@blackyps I thought everything was Lua and stuff. Who wrote the recall feature?

I believe Jip worked on the recall feature.

But that's recall, not draw.
The draw mechanic was written in Lua as well, but the rating system was written in Python, if I'm not mistaken.

~ Stryker

@indexlibrorum said in Offering a draw should not result in rating changes:

@blackyps I thought everything was Lua and stuff. Who wrote the recall feature?

The messages are sent in the game (Lua), but interpret by the server (Python)

edit: as @ComradeStryker already wrote

I see, that's unfortunate.

TMM game, 10 seconds in, a player DC'd.. we agree on a draw... we lose points.

Sadge.

-sigh-

~ Stryker

Yeah it remains depressing.