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    4v4 TMM January 2023 Map Pool Tier List

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    • waffelzNoobW Offline
      waffelzNoob @FtXCommando
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      @ftxcommando then setons would be in E 675829883280031786.webp

      frick snoops!

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      • MoraxM Offline
        Morax @Freedom_
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        @freedom_ said in 4v4 TMM January 2023 Map Pool Tier List:

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        tmm : 1906

        Good to see Falcon Stone River got fixed 👍

        Why would you say that if you put the map in the “E” category which is basically the worst rating??

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          Freedom_ @Morax
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          @morax
          Because it was imba with the bottom team having an extra mex; It is generally good to see that maps are fixed regardless of whether I like them or not. Equally I think it is a nice map, but it is a 5v5, with the air spot unpopulated and the fact no one really knows what they are doing on it because of that makes me not want to play it in tmm.

          Therefore it gets an E.

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          • MoraxM Offline
            Morax @Freedom_
            last edited by Morax

            @freedom_

            This is really helpful feedback to the team!

            We have a limited amount of maps that work with the matchmaker as most authors never knew 4v4 would be the main form of pvp until this past year. To compensate for that, sometimes we use 5v5, 6v6, etc maps that are viable for play, and with the current trend in 1500+ wanting a lot more mexes it helps.

            I have had games on falcon where people fight over who gets the “unused spawn” and it is frustrating.

            Bare with us for a bit as we update our map lists and direct new content. I’m working on my own new 4v4 map and will take this advice when designing it.

            Thanks a bunch for the detailed explanation. I wish everyone here would state why they rated certain maps in the best/ worst category.

            Be well!

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            • FemboyF Offline
              Femboy Promotions team
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              1v1: 1600
              TMM 1400(?)
              I just love maps where t1 navy/early agression matters.

              Chokepointy/maps played to the death (Canis, Setons, etc) make me just want to ctrl-k because some other dude prob played it 100 times and knows much better what to do. Plus I dislike maps where all the bases are together too...

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              • TheWeakieT Offline
                TheWeakie
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                Luckily bermuda saskiya crateria and mars don't have their spawns together

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                • waffelzNoobW Offline
                  waffelzNoob
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                  Every 20km water S+ but setons is in "would rather draw" solely because 5% of the TMM players is gonna be better at it?

                  frick snoops!

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                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
                    FtXCommando
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                    bully skipped over the famous water map of primus alfa

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                    • X Offline
                      Xayo @waffelzNoob
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                      @waffelznoob said in 4v4 TMM January 2023 Map Pool Tier List:

                      Every 20km water S+ but setons is in "would rather draw" solely because 5% of the TMM players is gonna be better at it?

                      I rate the maps similar to javi, and for me this comes down to:

                      If I win navy on those S rated maps, I can destroy all/most enemy bases and win the game. This feels rewarding and I like it.

                      If I win navy on my half of setons, the game will often drag out for another 30+ min, and my team might lose anyway. It's a real struggle to close out a setons game. Now, some setons experts will probably immediately reply that I'm just bad at setons if I can't snowball a win on my lane into a quick and easy game win. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't like the map and would rather draw than play.

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                      • waffelzNoobW Offline
                        waffelzNoob
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                        you can kill 2 player's bases by winning your navy, that's devastating enough. not to mention you'll get tens of thousands of mass to reclaim.
                        i don't think one player winning their navy should always translate to a win. this system is in effect with t3 air and it definitely has its issues

                        frick snoops!

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                        • FemboyF Offline
                          Femboy Promotions team @waffelzNoob
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                          @waffelznoob I just feel like Im traumatized from playing with setoners, winning Navy and then getting bullied by enemy T3 air while my air is taking out snot out of their nose. It just doesn't feel rewarding to win navy in setons.

                          Other maps I rarely see a storm of T2 torps out of nowhere, it feels like both t3 air players are around the same timing/one doesn't have the ultra optimized BO that makes them have an insane lead

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                          • CaliberC Offline
                            Caliber
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                            Can we have more map gen please?

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                              Sainse
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                              • Accidental_AeonA Offline
                                Accidental_Aeon
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                                TMM Rating: 1317
                                Global Setons Rating: 1500

                                Note: There seems to be a noticeable uptick in instant ctrl k when a player doesn't like a map. Please grow up.

                                Canis is so low because it is so campy. I put the water maps higher because I like navy.

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                                • B Offline
                                  BrainDeadCommand
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                                  its clear navy maps dominate

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                                  • M Offline
                                    Matches
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                                    Please remove all naval maps from tmm gold and below. we all suck at them and 99% of the time when a naval map loads people leave or draw. Navy is an acquired taste and many people like me are happy to play this game being decent at air and land and have no desire as a casual to be a naval player.

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                                    • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                                      Sladow-Noob
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                                      Sadly I cannot disagree with Matches. Hearing negative feedback from a lot of lower ranked players whether it is bc someone else sucks or they have no idea what they're doing.
                                      Since I dunno how many navy maps there are exactly.. Maybe keep the standard ones for now and see if the feedback gets better.

                                      Inactive.

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                                        Cyborg16
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                                        • ArhurtA Offline
                                          Arhurt @Maomaoo
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                                          @chisato said in 4v4 TMM January 2023 Map Pool Tier List:

                                          capella six have tons of unbuildable mexes and obnoxious amount of dense reclaim, hutts and sr islands have very awkward path finding that makes them unplayable, krakens nest have some terrain issues but dont remember where.

                                          Would love to have a chance to fix the pathfinding issues if I am provided a bit more context to understand it.

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