Adjust the build skirt of naval factories

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why wouldn't you still try fixing an existing problem though?

queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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Fixing the problem isnt the cause of concern. Negative side effects because of the fix are

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@thomashiatt rotatable factories would be a fix for the fix.
So a factory with a larger build skirt, that has more rotations, to compensate for faction dependency.
But i believe the different placement possibilities for different factions are mostly a concern when making the build skirt larger in all directions, as the seraphim naval factory is horizontally mirrored (space for ships is on the right not on the left) So the building itself is placed differently inside the build skirt. I think vertically they are all the same, so this change shouldn't give one faction a noticable advantage.

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I wouldn't try to fix it since the proposed solutions are very undesirable or require a fundamental change the way placing structures work, which seems unwarranted for a minor issue, and will likely introduce more bugs or negative side effects. The trend with all the patches lately is to provide some minor performance improvement or small fixes that come with some weird gameplay consequences or new buggy UI options enabled by default.

If you wanna get more new players remove SteamLink. If you wanna fix something, ladder is still fundamentally broken because you can abuse the draw bug. I don't care about anything, I just like complaining on the forum, I don't even play the game. All work done on FAF is futile because it will inevitably be replaced by a new and better game, or break because the engine is old and closed source. You can't make big improvements without engine source, and can't make money without owning the IP. Put your efforts into something for the future instead of the past, or keep making little patches and we can all keep complaining to the bitter end.

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wow, faf-depression got you hard, huh @ThomasHiatt

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I've done too much thinking and I don't wish to reread this thread.

Was there a reason that we can make the whole factory pathable like how the center is on the qg?

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@veteranashe That's not the heart of the problem.
And making the whole factory pathable would look weird and I'm not sure what other things will be affected by this (can it be hit, when it's pathable?).
the true problem is, that the roll off point (where ships go after they're build) is in a spot outside the build skirt, so there is no guarantee that there is enough space at the roll off point.
So the problem is not only naval factories being in the way, but also all other water buildings and terrain.

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And the sheer size of many of the vessels.

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I may be replying a little late, but I was interested in seeing this.

This may be counter-intuitive, but, what if you flip the blueprint of a Naval Facility?
So all factions build vessels on the same side. Specifically speaking about the Seraphim Naval Factory as it is the only one that is facing right, instead of left. Then adjust the skirt size for all factions.

If all factories are facing the same way, then there should be no gameplay issue with where you can build those facilities.

Another idea is to allow for the rotation of blueprints, giving the player an option to flip their facilities a full 180* if they wanted to but, that will likely have a huge impact on gameplay.


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Can you send me some mass?

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I believe that is addressed in a post above