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Someone's cheating on the coop leaderboard

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    NOC-
    last edited by 10 Nov 2022, 22:49

    We are aware of some of these from Pobus - moderation has been alerted before and we are hoping to reset the leaderboards at some point.
    This will require Brutus I believe however getting the time to sort it for a minor issue is not high priority at the moment

    Ras Boi's save lives.

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      A Former User
      last edited by 11 Nov 2022, 04:41

      The leaderboard is a mess anyway: It doesn't care which map versions and game patches you played on.

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        Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin @A Former User
        last edited by 11 Nov 2022, 07:52

        @melanol said in Someone's cheating on the coop leaderboard:

        The leaderboard is a mess anyway: It doesn't care which map versions and game patches you played on.

        This is one of the reasons why I give low priority to cleaning up.
        Basically you'd need "seasons" aka each patch opens a new season.

        He said, "I've been to the year 3000
        Not much has changed, but they live underwater
        And your great-great-great-granddaughter
        Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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          speed2
          last edited by 11 Nov 2022, 08:44

          Wouldnt be so bad considering the frequency of coop patches

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            Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
            last edited by 11 Nov 2022, 11:42

            I was talking about faf base patches actually as they all change the gameplay

            He said, "I've been to the year 3000
            Not much has changed, but they live underwater
            And your great-great-great-granddaughter
            Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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              A Former User
              last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:39

              I suggest we remove the adjustable speed option as a valid way to get into the leaderboard, as it forces you to play on very low speed.

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                Resistance
                last edited by 28 Nov 2022, 06:51

                It doesn t force anyone to play on low speed, you can freely choose whether you play on -10 or + 10

                queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                  A Former User @Resistance
                  last edited by A Former User 28 Nov 2022, 15:17

                  @rezy-noob Same as doping in sports. You don't have to, but it makes you stronger, and it feels like cheating. Want to know how I beat some coop ratings? -10.

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                    Resistance
                    last edited by 28 Nov 2022, 15:40

                    good job. still can't see the reason why should it be forbidden

                    queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                      magge Global Moderator
                      last edited by 28 Nov 2022, 16:41

                      The scoreboard will be revamped some day anyway. Probably will have different categories as well.

                      Join a FAFtastic Team

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                        Rowey @Resistance
                        last edited by 30 Nov 2022, 09:05

                        @rezy-noob I can why, if you adjusting the time you allowing your self more time to react to something and plan for expanction's. so say 2 people good have a in game play time of 30 mins but one takes hour 30 IRL to play it due to slowing the game down. i agree that adjustable sim should not be a valid leaderboard score as that is not the default settings.

                        "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                          Resistance
                          last edited by Resistance 30 Nov 2022, 09:52

                          playing around with time makes you efficient, i think people that dedicate lots of time to achieve extreme efficiency have to be rewarded, afterall, we are talking about performance.
                          i'd like to point out that speedrunning includes the usage of any resource and options available.
                          back to the main post, yeah, cheating will not be tolerated, the progress will be hidden from the leaderboard

                          queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                            Jip
                            last edited by 30 Nov 2022, 10:14

                            I think that it is fine too - the leaderboard is not used for tournaments or used in some fashion that allows them to benefit financially. If someone wants to achieve the best time by spending an entire day on a -10 game then... respect to them.

                            A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                              maudlin27
                              last edited by 30 Nov 2022, 11:51

                              Im also assuming even if adjustable speed was to be excluded from the leaderboard you could slow the game down by slowing your cpu and/or running other stuff in the background to get around it

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                              https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
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