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    • ZeldafanboyZ
      Zeldafanboy @Valki
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      @valki said in Mercy simple suggestion: reduce damage vs ACU:

      Personally I feel dirty when I kill an ACU with it

      Why? It dies if you sneeze on it and it's expensive. If it gets scouted, it's totally over. Your opponent deserved to die for not scouting.

      put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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      • FtXCommandoF
        FtXCommando
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        Because I can scout it and then make 5 t1 aa all around my acu but because projectiles are simulated they might miss the initial shot which is all it takes for the mercy to then kill me.

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        • ZeldafanboyZ
          Zeldafanboy
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          Just like SAMs can only really protect things a ways behind them from T3 bombers, you need to put T1 MAA in front of your commander, not next to it. And T1 MAA is the weakest AA, a handful of inties or one flak (which should be in play by that stage of the game) just delete Mercies

          put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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          • A
            Aulex
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            Make the mercy an anti air weapon that has massive AOE and can take out huge blobs of ASFs and intis. Really make air play spicier and more frustrating. /s

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            • FtXCommandoF
              FtXCommando
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              bro they are in front of my commander r u trying to tell me because an aeon has a t2 air fac i must always keep my acu 500 m behind t1 maa so it doesn't die?

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              • ZeldafanboyZ
                Zeldafanboy @FtXCommando
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                @ftxcommando

                I would say the distance you need to park them is around twice the build range of the ACU, it's not really that far. Less distance if you have radar coverage.

                put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                • TheWeakieT
                  TheWeakie
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                  and what if the RARE scenario occurs when twice the buildrange of your acu happens to be inside an enemy army?

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                  • FtXCommandoF
                    FtXCommando
                    last edited by FtXCommando

                    the point here is that aeon has the ability to simply lose u any game situation where you need to have acu v acu combat in teamgames through no fault of your own, you could have scouted it 30 seconds ago, built the correct counter, but just lose cuz the turret cant turn fast enough to kill the mercy in time

                    saying "oh just dont have your acu there" is like saying "oh just lose the game"

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                    • veteranasheV
                      veteranashe
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                      Vakli if mercy has hp it will 100% kill on the first run

                      It's not the same with T2 bombers.

                      Look up how to mod, it's easy, change the hp and try it out.

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                      • ValkiV
                        Valki
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                        @veteranashe What situations would you propose I test?
                        I already assume it will kill any unshielded structure it has sufficient damage for if it is not intercepted.

                        Are you concerned that it is too good at sniping T2 mex and T2 pgens?

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                        • ZeldafanboyZ
                          Zeldafanboy @TheWeakie
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                          @thewheelie said in Mercy simple suggestion: reduce damage vs ACU:

                          and what if the RARE scenario occurs when twice the buildrange of your acu happens to be inside an enemy army?

                          That’s why we make interceptors kids

                          put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                          • ZeldafanboyZ
                            Zeldafanboy @FtXCommando
                            last edited by

                            @ftxcommando

                            But t1 maa aren’t the optimal counter to mercies, t1 interceptors or t2 flak are

                            put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                            • ThomasHiattT
                              ThomasHiatt
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                              Flak is not optimal it has too low of a muzzle velocity.

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                              • veteranasheV
                                veteranashe
                                last edited by

                                Change the mercy hp to whatever you think, Ive tested 50-200, change the range if you want. It works don't to range 6 I think.

                                Then load the game non faf with your mod, enable cheats, give yourself a mercy and the enemy a t3 pgen, Omni and 1 flak. Have the mercy target the flak. Add more flak till your happy.

                                Lol once I gave the mercy like range 2 and it would fly over and not target then circle back to it and activate. At 200 hp 1 flak couldn't stop it even flying over twice

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                                • ValkiV
                                  Valki @veteranashe
                                  last edited by Valki

                                  @veteranashe I tried something else, 1 T2 mex and 1 Flak vs a T2 Fighter/Bomber.

                                  1 flak fails to defend against Corsair or Notha, both taking 2 passes to destroy the mex and releasing their second bomb before being destroyed. Janus gets the mex below 50% before it is destroyed by flak.

                                  Aeon taking 1 pass to destroy it, despite 1 flak, with a suicide unit, doesn't look that bad.

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                                  • veteranasheV
                                    veteranashe
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                                    I believe that's cheaper than a tml.

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                                    • KaletheQuickK
                                      KaletheQuick @veteranashe
                                      last edited by

                                      @veteranashe So it's potentially viable?

                                      You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                                      • ValkiV
                                        Valki @veteranashe
                                        last edited by

                                        @veteranashe said in Mercy simple suggestion: reduce damage vs ACU:

                                        I believe that's cheaper than a tml.

                                        Interesting comparison, the more because at one point at least Aeon TMD would attract Mercy missiles.

                                        We could do 2 things, either:
                                        A. Accept that defending against Aeon T2 means having interceptors ready to intercept Mercies eco snipes, while saving on TMD.
                                        B. Make the mercy projectile officially a Tac Missile so TMD (deliberately) shoots down the projectile.

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                                        • O
                                          Olezha1
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                                          Mercy doesnt need any changes

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                                          • KaletheQuickK
                                            KaletheQuick @Olezha1
                                            last edited by

                                            @olezha1 what make you say that?

                                            You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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