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Mercy simple suggestion: reduce damage vs ACU

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    FtXCommando
    last edited by 21 Oct 2021, 18:43

    bro they are in front of my commander r u trying to tell me because an aeon has a t2 air fac i must always keep my acu 500 m behind t1 maa so it doesn't die?

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      Zeldafanboy @FtXCommando
      last edited by 21 Oct 2021, 18:54

      @ftxcommando

      I would say the distance you need to park them is around twice the build range of the ACU, it's not really that far. Less distance if you have radar coverage.

      put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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        TheWeakie
        last edited by 21 Oct 2021, 18:55

        and what if the RARE scenario occurs when twice the buildrange of your acu happens to be inside an enemy army?

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          FtXCommando
          last edited by FtXCommando 21 Oct 2021, 19:40

          the point here is that aeon has the ability to simply lose u any game situation where you need to have acu v acu combat in teamgames through no fault of your own, you could have scouted it 30 seconds ago, built the correct counter, but just lose cuz the turret cant turn fast enough to kill the mercy in time

          saying "oh just dont have your acu there" is like saying "oh just lose the game"

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            veteranashe
            last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 02:48

            Vakli if mercy has hp it will 100% kill on the first run

            It's not the same with T2 bombers.

            Look up how to mod, it's easy, change the hp and try it out.

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              Valki
              last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 05:21

              @veteranashe What situations would you propose I test?
              I already assume it will kill any unshielded structure it has sufficient damage for if it is not intercepted.

              Are you concerned that it is too good at sniping T2 mex and T2 pgens?

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                Zeldafanboy @TheWeakie
                last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 13:34

                @thewheelie said in Mercy simple suggestion: reduce damage vs ACU:

                and what if the RARE scenario occurs when twice the buildrange of your acu happens to be inside an enemy army?

                That’s why we make interceptors kids

                put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                  Zeldafanboy @FtXCommando
                  last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 13:35

                  @ftxcommando

                  But t1 maa aren’t the optimal counter to mercies, t1 interceptors or t2 flak are

                  put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                    ThomasHiatt
                    last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 15:49

                    Flak is not optimal it has too low of a muzzle velocity.

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                      veteranashe
                      last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 21:04

                      Change the mercy hp to whatever you think, Ive tested 50-200, change the range if you want. It works don't to range 6 I think.

                      Then load the game non faf with your mod, enable cheats, give yourself a mercy and the enemy a t3 pgen, Omni and 1 flak. Have the mercy target the flak. Add more flak till your happy.

                      Lol once I gave the mercy like range 2 and it would fly over and not target then circle back to it and activate. At 200 hp 1 flak couldn't stop it even flying over twice

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                        Valki @veteranashe
                        last edited by Valki 24 Oct 2021, 07:39

                        @veteranashe I tried something else, 1 T2 mex and 1 Flak vs a T2 Fighter/Bomber.

                        1 flak fails to defend against Corsair or Notha, both taking 2 passes to destroy the mex and releasing their second bomb before being destroyed. Janus gets the mex below 50% before it is destroyed by flak.

                        Aeon taking 1 pass to destroy it, despite 1 flak, with a suicide unit, doesn't look that bad.

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                          veteranashe
                          last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 10:50

                          I believe that's cheaper than a tml.

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                            KaletheQuick @veteranashe
                            last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 11:55

                            @veteranashe So it's potentially viable?

                            You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                              Valki @veteranashe
                              last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 13:23

                              @veteranashe said in Mercy simple suggestion: reduce damage vs ACU:

                              I believe that's cheaper than a tml.

                              Interesting comparison, the more because at one point at least Aeon TMD would attract Mercy missiles.

                              We could do 2 things, either:
                              A. Accept that defending against Aeon T2 means having interceptors ready to intercept Mercies eco snipes, while saving on TMD.
                              B. Make the mercy projectile officially a Tac Missile so TMD (deliberately) shoots down the projectile.

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                                Olezha1
                                last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 14:03

                                Mercy doesnt need any changes

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                                  KaletheQuick @Olezha1
                                  last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 16:51

                                  @olezha1 what make you say that?

                                  You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                                    veteranashe
                                    last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 21:19

                                    It's already strong and at the same time weak. The only thing I'd like to see is that you could have some dmg so you could take out groups of tanks or clouds of unties/asf, and make volatile so they could chain blow up and ruin a attack

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                                      Resistance
                                      last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 05:50

                                      this unit is weak when you have 25125151 aa,radar coverage,intie coverage,only x10 res to counter it,yes,very balanced

                                      queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                        KaletheQuick
                                        last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 06:58

                                        I really would like it to be more useful. I just hate when units are so rarely used that I practically forget about them.

                                        Like the shard, mercy, fire beetles, and aeon sacrifice ability.

                                        You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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