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    Askaholic
    last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 17:50

    Btw the random maps are supported in map pools now. Y’all can put them in if/when ever you please.

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      tatsu @archsimkat
      last edited by tatsu 26 Apr 2021, 09:12

      @archsimkat said in About Neroxis map generator...:

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      Hey (as per my discord PM)

      what's the status update on this?

      As @Askaholic said it's ready to go. it's been two weeks. this is kinda painful to have this much of a delay on things that are pretty much done and ready to go.

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        archsimkat
        last edited by 27 Apr 2021, 07:59

        Hey @tatsu, thanks for informing me again but as we discussed in PMs, I am already aware that adding mapgen to map pools is supported. Whether you ask me privately or post about it publicly does not change the fact that I will not suddenly change the map pool in the middle of a ladder rotation.

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          tatsu
          last edited by 27 Apr 2021, 12:55

          oh, ok I wasn't made aware that's what it was. thanks!

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            Zokora @Askaholic
            last edited by 28 Apr 2021, 18:17

            @askaholic said in About Neroxis map generator...:

            Btw the random maps are supported in map pools now. Y’all can put them in if/when ever you please.

            Can you tell me how to enable this? I only see the default maps. Furthermore, is it possible to play only random generated maps in the matchmaking?

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              FtXCommando
              last edited by 28 Apr 2021, 18:28

              People responsible for map pools need to put it in as a "map" in the rotation that the server can launch.

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                archsimkat @Blodir
                last edited by 30 Apr 2021, 17:12

                @blodir

                @blodir said in About Neroxis map generator...:

                It's simply astouding. Most of the 1v1 10x10 maps generated with the "tournament" setting are better than most ladder maps. It feels a lot like AoE2. Definitely wouldn't mind seeing generated maps on ladder.

                Would it be possible to have some 10% chance of getting a brand new mapgen map on ladder?

                Thanks to the work of our amazing devs behind the scenes, Mapgen is now available as a map to be added to ladder. As a result, 1v1 Ladder now includes Mapgen as one of the maps in each of the map sizes: 5x5, 10x10, and 20x20. Get laddering!

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                  tatsu
                  last edited by 30 Apr 2021, 20:21

                  Holy Smokes!

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                    tatsu
                    last edited by 30 Apr 2021, 20:47

                    got a map gen first try!

                    GLORIOUS!

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                      Anachronism_
                      last edited by Anachronism_ 5 Feb 2021, 17:40 2 May 2021, 17:37

                      Wonderful, now I'll play more ladder.
                      I hope we'll have the option to queue for a pool/ladder of just map gen in not too long : )

                      pfp credit to gieb

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                        tatsu @archsimkat
                        last edited by tatsu 5 Mar 2021, 05:30 3 May 2021, 05:29

                        @archsimkat Thanks so much! can we do 2v2 as well?

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                          FtXCommando @FtXCommando
                          last edited by 3 May 2021, 05:34

                          @ftxcommando said in About Neroxis map generator...:

                          With regards to tmm, I see no need for implementing map gen in those formats. Most reasonings here hold no real sway because:

                          1. Tons of new maps that saw near zero competitive play exist for these formats
                          2. The format has hardly exists long enough for map fatigue to set in
                          3. Map gen itself is a lot less tested for these formats
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                            Morax
                            last edited by 4 May 2021, 16:57

                            Got a few mapgen maps in the pool so far, and got a lot that look like this:

                            https://i.imgur.com/HXzUpZQ.png

                            This is really low quality, and I know the mapgen can do a whole lot better than this. I would strongly urge the ladder team to work on agreed upon settings that create as interesting maps AS POSSIBLE. This is not a good look for the usage in ladder if this kind of content repeats.

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                              Tex
                              last edited by 4 May 2021, 17:13

                              I've only had gotten 2 so far on ladder.(small sample size, obviously. Take with grain of salt) Got a 5x5 and 20x20, both were quite reasonable in terms of how they looked and how they played. Saw a 10k map Swkoll had generated as well, looked fun as well, but snowball potential was high. So far I am impressed with map gen in ladder, but I haven't gotten anything bad yet so YMMV.

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                                Auriko
                                last edited by 5 May 2021, 13:18

                                Quite happy with mapgen. For me it's not a problem to have a "meh" map once a while, i'm quite confident that the diversity of maps layout will eventually offset that once you will have played more.

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                                  Morax
                                  last edited by 5 May 2021, 13:57

                                  Sounds like I have been quite unlucky thus far... lame! Per the conversation that started this post I’ll be giving it a little more time to evaluate. I kind of got discouraged after 3 meh maps!

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                                    Resistance
                                    last edited by 5 May 2021, 14:35

                                    there're some layouts that need rework yes,i got about 120 games by now on mapgen and most feel different from the classic BO whoring where there is almost no difference between boosted and good players since there're just op tactics and the ability to adapt just gets erased completely,overall most of the land 10x10-blind-10 players feel ok and quite active,way better as t3 mex simulator tbh x)

                                    queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                      ThomasHiatt
                                      last edited by 6 May 2021, 01:16

                                      I like mapgen and hardffa a lot in ladder. I have more fun on even the worst mapgen maps than I do on most of the authored maps in the pool.

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                                        SanguisAter
                                        last edited by 6 May 2021, 19:48

                                        I just love playing on mapgen maps! It feels like a whole new dimension to the game.

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                                          Blackheart
                                          last edited by 7 May 2021, 07:26

                                          I also enjoyed the showmatch vs Petric even though it had some bugs for the unexplored mode. In general I do absolutely think that mapgen should become the standard in future tournaments and in general the standard for competition. It takes the game back to economic and strategic decisions and does not allow you to patch up bad on-the-fly decisions with studying 25 replays and spending hours creating 25 BOs.

                                          Ban Anime

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