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    • H Offline
      HerbertFreir
      last edited by

      Hello and good day to any readers,

      tl;dr: I'm a coward, is flaming in pvp games common?

      I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I could not find any more fitting category.
      Unfortunately I suffer from pretty severe self-worth issues and pretty much all I know from pvp are commented games on youtube of semi- or high-rank. Very often in these games I see a LOT of flaming of teammates and, not gonna lie, I don't have a particularly high mental fortitude for this kind of thing. However, I've never played any pvp games, because im afraid of exactly this. And because of this I have thus far only played coop or survival.

      So my question in the end is: Is this common occurance or are these games outliers? Just in higher skill games or everywhere?

      Thank you for reading.
      Have a good day.

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      • Brutus5000B Offline
        Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
        last edited by

        I think it's quite common. On average you lose 50% of your games in PvP. Not everybody likes that.

        You don't need to play PvP. Just open a lobby vs xAI and find some people wanting the same. For some reason people are usually to lazy to host a lobby but would join a game quite fast.

        He said, "I've been to the year 3000
        Not much has changed, but they live underwater
        And your great-great-great-granddaughter
        Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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          Kilatamoro
          last edited by

          1v1, no teammates, can properly mute opponent at the start.

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            HerbertFreir
            last edited by

            Thank you so much for the fast replies and honesty, it is quite unfortunate that it is quite common. I quite enjoy playing in teams, so 1v1s aren't very interesting to me. I did host plenty of PvE games before i took a break, but I would have wanted to test myself against real players, learn metas, build orders, etc. I think there is a lot of fun to be had in that. Sadly, if flaming is so common, that is just not an option for me 😞
            I did see very competent AI's being made by the community who would be quite a challenge, but I REALLY prefer playing in teams.....I'm just weird like that.
            All things considered......maybe I'll have a go at it again, but surely not pvp by the looks of it.

            Again, thank you so much for your time.
            Have a good day!

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            • NuggetsN Offline
              Nuggets FAF Association Board
              last edited by

              If you have a problem regarding the flaming, a UI mod that mutes chat could be interesting? Depending on if you want to communicate with your team.
              You will find this in any game though. It is a competitive game and people get too invested into it and flame / complain (me included).

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                HerbertFreir
                last edited by

                If it's a team game, of course I'd want to communicate and plan with my teammates. I'm aware its everywhere, but there's still a big difference between games.
                If I asked people what the most toxic game community is I'm pretty sure 90% would answer league of legends......for good reason.
                I can play games where flaming is the exception, but not the rule.

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                • maudlin27M Offline
                  maudlin27
                  last edited by

                  Some maps and games are more likely to flame than others.
                  My advice - stay clear of setons and dual gap, people get very angry over small things and/or not playing the way they expect.

                  3v3 matchmaker is usually fairly chill (but there are exceptions), partly because there's less of a pre-set meta
                  Astro craters maps used to be relatively chill as well but it's been a few years since I've played them

                  there are occasionally team games vs AI which are fairly rare to have flaming

                  inevitably you'll come across some people who are toxic, but it's definitely a relatively small minority of games I play (I usually play 3v3 TMM). There's also 1v1 where it's less likely since there's no teammate to complain about how you play.

                  M27AI and M28AI developer:
                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v81-devlog
                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v294
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