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    Can I be banned for drawing a match?

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    • N0ld0rN Offline
      N0ld0r
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      I just had a match where one of the enemy players was AFK so we all pressed draw except on player. Then close to the end of the game it did draw and now he is saying I'll get banned for it but it doesn't make any sense to me.

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      • maudlin27M Offline
        maudlin27
        last edited by

        Rating manipulation is against FAF rules, so if the game was rated, and it was reported, and the mod reviewing the report thought it indicated manipulation (i.e. deliberately drawing a game that was won to lower your rating) then you could be at risk of a ban, but even in that scenario you could then appeal the ban and explain what happened.

        Unless there's a pattern of it happening in other games then I'd have thought it relatively unlikely you'd be banned, and even more unlikely you'd remain banned on appeal, subject to if there's evidence contradicting this.

        M27AI and M28AI developer:
        https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v81-devlog
        https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v294
        M28 trophy holders: Radde, Yew (Radde trophy, v285) and Zwaffel (Sladow trophy, v284)

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        • SheppyS Offline
          Sheppy
          last edited by

          Nobody will care about some random beef about drawing or not drawing a single matchmaker game. Have some faith in the mod team

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          • N Offline
            Nuggets FAF Association Board @Sheppy
            last edited by

            @Sheppy said in Can I be banned for drawing a match?:

            Nobody will care about some random beef about drawing or not drawing a single matchmaker game. Have some faith in the mod team

            Not to open a big topic here, but this thinking is the reason there are stupid edge cases or rare cases that are bannable. Nobody care != Not bannable (which is the problem)

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            • BlackYpsB Offline
              BlackYps
              last edited by

              Maudlin already explained the process and that it is not bannable unless it involved rating manipulation. And judging from the OP it doesn't look like this is the case.

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              • N Offline
                Nuggets FAF Association Board
                last edited by

                Yes. The OP had a normal game and accidentally caused a draw. There is 100% nothing wrong or bannable here.

                The problem here is the reply by maudlin going into rating manipulation without actually responding to the OP. When just looking at these 2 posts it looks to me that a moderator replied that this is bannable and he might have to "justify" himself in a ticket.
                Not to mention the OP went out of his way to ask and talk about it instead of just doing it (and then repeating).

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                • maudlin27M Offline
                  maudlin27 @maudlin27
                  last edited by

                  said in Can I be banned for drawing a match?:

                  Rating manipulation is against FAF rules, so if the game was rated, and it was reported, and the mod reviewing the report thought it indicated manipulation (i.e. deliberately drawing a game that was won to lower your rating) then you could be at risk of a ban, but even in that scenario you could then appeal the ban and explain what happened.

                  Unless there's a pattern of it happening in other games then I'd have thought it relatively unlikely you'd be banned, and even more unlikely you'd remain banned on appeal, subject to if there's evidence contradicting this.

                  Translation for Nuggets:
                  No, it shouldnt result in a ban

                  M27AI and M28AI developer:
                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v81-devlog
                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v294
                  M28 trophy holders: Radde, Yew (Radde trophy, v285) and Zwaffel (Sladow trophy, v284)

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                  • maggeM Offline
                    magge Moderator FAF Association Board
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                    @Jip has refactored the draw-method so that calls now expire after a time. This prevents players from starting a call at the beginning of a match and keeping it open indefinitely.

                    Previously, the flaw was that draw-calls never expired, meaning an early offer could still be accepted much later to avoid a loss / not letting the enemy team win when the match situation has drastically changed.

                    The fix is not live, yet, but is in the pipeline.

                    As @maudlin27 already explained, no one should be banned for drawing a match. If you encounter situations where a draw was abused to tamper with the game state, please report them for investigation.

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                    • N0ld0rN Offline
                      N0ld0r
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for all the feedback guys, I appreciate it.

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