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Naked-to-rambo SACU is the best offensive unit

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    A Former User
    last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 16:44

    Upgrades do no get into reclaim.

    Example:
    Sera SACU mass cost: 2.05k
    Overcharge (right arm) mass cost: 4.5k
    Personal Shield Generator (back) mass cost: 1.2k
    Nano-Repair System (left arm) mass cost: 2.5k
    Total mass cost: 10.2

    Reclaim: 1.661k or 16.3% of the total

    Meaning that if the offense fails, your opponent won't get much mass our of your attack and you are not afraid to send an SACUs army to die. March, drop or teleport, your opponent will suffer.

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      A Former User
      last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 17:24

      Also, Cybran SACU with Nano-Repait has 400-HP regen.

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        ThomasHiatt
        last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 18:00

        Don't forget your veterency levels come much cheaper because it also doesn't factor in upgrade cost.

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          veteranashe
          last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 18:01

          What's the build time of both ways of doing it.

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            Jip
            last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 18:40

            We're fixing all of these issues, some of the ground work has already been merged:

            • https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/4070

            That allows for proper computation of resource requirements of an individual units, taking into account the current enhancements.

            A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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              FtXCommando
              last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 18:52

              Does that apply to ACUs? Because that seems like a significant nerf to combat ACUs if so.

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                Jip
                last edited by 3 Sept 2022, 19:15

                I don't know, I'll leave that to the balance team. The changes were primarily aimed at sacrifice bonus (of Aeon SACU) and wreck value (of any SACU)

                A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                  Arran
                  last edited by 4 Sept 2022, 02:33

                  If it applies to ACU's it could be balance in two ways.

                  1. By buffing the vet bonuses because they take longer to earn. This would also reward "courageous" acu positioning, or very good acu control when unupgraded.
                  2. Excluding ACU's from the change. This would be the most simple logical solution, but there might be technical issues with implementation.
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