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    The issue with Chrono Dampener

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    • GrimplexG
      Grimplex
      last edited by

      I think bully is a genius. This post has reinvigorated my will to play 1v1 again and spam chrono every game as an aeon main. My life has returned to normality.

      The embodiment of depression...

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      • SpikeyNoobS
        SpikeyNoob Global Moderator
        last edited by

        Me

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        • FtXCommandoF
          FtXCommando
          last edited by

          How is Aeon supposed to compete against tier 0 UEF without chrono? Basically autolose at that point.

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            Nooby
            last edited by

            Has anyone got some hih level replays ID showing the power of this?

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            • FtXCommandoF
              FtXCommando
              last edited by

              https://replay.faforever.com/19201554

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              • waffelzNoobW
                waffelzNoob
                last edited by

                just as chris taylor intended

                https://replay.faforever.com/19711969
                replay desyncs, but min ~20 still shows a nice example. also the 200 blaze push blodir does later on (post desync) was completely crushed by chrono, few pd and few restos aswell

                frick snoops!

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                  ovenman
                  last edited by

                  Uef, the t2 pd faction, shouldn't have any issue with chrono

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                  • FtXCommandoF
                    FtXCommando
                    last edited by

                    Remove t2 pd from aeon roster to balance chrono

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                    • ComradeStrykerC
                      ComradeStryker
                      last edited by ComradeStryker

                      Why not increase the resource cost of Chrono a tad bit?
                      15, or maybe 20% more power to grab the upgrade, to be specific.
                      Could also increase mass and build power as well, but that would probably need more tweaking than just an energy increase.

                      A little something to slow down the upgrade so It wouldn't be obtained as early as it can be currently.
                      Instead, aiming toward more of a slightly later stage of a match, near the T3 land stage.

                      The reason this upgrade is so powerful is that it can be used in conjunction with 'double gun'.
                      Which already outranges most, if not all, T2 units - shredding them when they can't even get into range to fire off a shot.

                      At least at the T3 stage, most units can match the range of the ACU.
                      This way, moving the upgrade to, say... a T3 stage instead of a mid-T2 stage, would help even things out.


                      That being said, I haven't actually seen Chrono in a long while.
                      Interesting.


                      ~ Stryker

                      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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                      • phongP
                        phong
                        last edited by phong

                        I remember seeing a few videos of Jip and Spikey playing around with a variable stun time based on range. Worth integrating, in my opinion, purely because it's so cool. It does also offer up some new and interesting degrees of freedom for the balance team to play with, though.

                        With such a change, chrono would naturally affect longer-ranged units less, and since those tend to be slower, maybe this would coincidentally represent a step in the right direction for balance. Depending on the stun duration at the outermost perimeter, It might also allow fast units to intentionally run around the ACU, enabling a surround, and it would punish the attacker less for stepping into the danger zone accidentally.

                        Here's a link to one of the videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv1TCW9jO9w&t=785s

                        As you can see, the scripting and effects work has already been done, all it needs is a balance pass.

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