New way of using the League System
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Current System
Ever since the new Leauge system was implemented and replace the standard leaderboards in the client the first few season people were proactivly playing to rise up thoght the ranks and more recently ve sen that for the 1v1 & 2v2 matchmaker space this has significaly droped of.
Aim of this post
The Aim of this posting it to preset My idea to update the leauge system into 4 Distiguised seasonal events thoughout the year were thier are some small insentives to actlault wanting to play.
- Give a reason to want to play 1v1 & 2v2
- Give a Goal to reach with custom avatars & prize pool
- More people playing the matchmaker
New Approach
For now the aim would be to trial this out with 1v1 and if it something the community like we can expand this to the 2v2 system in the new year.
The New approach to the league system will be to have 4 season:
- Winter : 1st January - 28/29th February
- Spring : 1st April - 31st may
- Summer : 1st July - 31st August
- Autumn : 1st October - 30th November
Each season would happen around the same time each year. Each Season would be a 2 month period with a 1 Month Grace period in-between were other bespoke tournament can take place and give players a breck from the grid over the last 2 months.
Avatars & Prize pool
Thanks to @Fichom we have custom avatars for the top 4 brackets of the league being
- Grandmaster
- Master I
- Diamond I
- Gold I
Winter
Spring
Summer
Autumn
And I've also spoke to the new Treasure of the association( @Deribus ) about using some FAF funds for a small prise pot for each event which would be $50 per event
Feedback
Were open to any feedback you can provide us on the setup as id like to start the first seasonal event on the 1st of July so see if it will bring people back to playing on the 1v1 matchmaker more if their is a goal to work towards
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The avatars look cool. They also match up with the faction colours.
I think this would be fun & I'd play more ladder bc of it.
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Giving money to lower brackets monetarily incentivizes people to intentionally lose if they’re right above said bracket.
I’d also say part of the problem is that nobody has any reason to care about their league placement because rating is still used everywhere. If you want people to care about their league then start replacing ratings with it. At the very least it should be like the old Zep divisions where your division was there in addition to an avatar rather than replacing an avatar. Odds are lots of the people to win the grandmaster one will just never wear it because they have 50 cooler avatars.
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What would happen in-between seasons? Would people be able to simply sit on high rankings and cash out multiple seasons in a row? Will there be a proportional shift of all ratings towards the bottom of their brackets? Or a complete reset of each player's league entirely?
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@ftxcommando said in New way of using the League System:
Giving money to lower brackets monetarily incentivizes people to intentionally lose if they’re right above said bracket.
the money incentive to the love brackets can be revested and only have monetary values to Grandmaster & Master ?
@captainklutz said in New way of using the League System:
What would happen in-between seasons? Would people be able to simply sit on high rankings and cash out multiple seasons in a row? Will there be a proportional shift of all ratings towards the bottom of their brackets? Or a complete reset of each player's league entirely?
Already at the start of each season you already play 10 placement matches which will ruffly give you a ruff placement in the league and then over the time of the event you would still have to work to ensure that your secured your spot ?
@ftxcommando said in New way of using the League System:
I’d also say part of the problem is that nobody has any reason to care about their league placement because rating is still used everywhere. If you want people to care about their league then start replacing ratings with it.
I know in the last game patch the division icons are now apart of the game file but have not yet been added to replace the current rating and will look into what is holding this from becoming a thing
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Actively checking for smurfing in ladder would need to be a thing, my sinnacle side is telling me that there would be a new wave 'prodigy' accounts conveniantly in time for the seasons starting and the same people trying to win multiple rank leagues and ultimately robbing genuine players. But certainly a greater reason to play ladder isn't a bad idea. I think having a collective league table apposed to master 1-5 etc would be better, so someone finishes top of each rank pool, grandmaster, master, diamond and so on and have an overall winner for each level of player.
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I also really like the avatars. There is room for more cosmetics especially for lower rated like me that have almost none ;-;
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I don't understand why it's necessary to have these breaks in between. I worry it will lead to people valuing their rating more again as in the offseason the only thing left to track any progression is the rating
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Honestly dude just get them to make a Mapgen only 1v1 que if you want more people to do ladder. The map pool is boring.
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mapgen only 1v1 will just make people bored of mapgen too. after a dozen games u start to realise mapgen isn't all that diverse either
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1v1 ladder is not really underpopulated. The only problem is the 2k+ bracket that is virtually gone. You don't solve that problem with avatars. You solve that by removing the old rating system completely and in doing so put more importance to the current leaderboards. Then you give a single money prize to the top grandmaster player of that season. Problem fixed and we have a competitive scene again.
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Make ladder better, For starters stop offering up avatars to players that already have 50!
Give lower rank players who have been here since day dot and support the comunity just as much a chance to win somthing!
Or at least keep somthing.
Cash is a silly idea and mentioning santions is a joke no politics in FAF
Stop making tournaments that only the usual 10-20 ppl play and win, Maybe make a ladder tournament that if you have an avatar or have already won in the past your excluded.Maybe make some easy things for ppl to achive maybe even funny ones ect- play 10 ladder 1-1 games in a day and get an avatar (gaps for noobs) or some crap idk
Maybe even mini fraction avatars -- Make sure to get your 10 ladder games in this week (each week) guys to secure your fracting avatar Make it smaller even so the other dont cry
We could even do a (most impressvie gains and upcomming players list) on news page that showed who increased the most and who lost the most rank in ladder that week and who to watch out for.
Maybe even post a couple of replays from that week for ppl to check outLots of ppl love ladder but how do 2 non party players vs a party team in 2-2 that keeps popping up and smashing ppl
i love ladder but now if im not in party i wont bother, could there be an option where partys vs partys or only randoms vs randoms
i know at the 1k rating area 2v2-4v4 there is massive dif between a team and no team!Personly who give a fuck whos at top they are the same players is been for years you either hotkey or dont and a lot dont!
You want new players to populate lader find a way to suport and incentify the lower ranks
Also a lot of new players think 4-4 lader is where you start your game Journey ( na mate) ive alwasy thought you wanna learn to play do it in custom could we advertise that ladder is esentialy what it was ment for a LADDER to climb ranks
this is confusing when its called TMMLast off love you all!
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Rather then implement new avatars and increase manual overhead with requiring 80+ avatars to be issued every few months. We should be implementing automated issuing of the rank icon when its earned (possibly just leaving the highest earned as selectable).
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I think to bring back the popularity of 1x1 games, we need to hold weekly Blitz tournaments (under 1500 and 1500+). No cash prize, no new avatars, and no broadcast.
Just give people the opportunity to play a few games, with different opponents and in an interesting format. If you do such tournaments regularly, then for someone it will be a motivation to play 1x1, so that in the next tournament to perform better and possibly play against the strongest players faf, or just to go further than "that guy who can't play, but somehow took a higher place". -
After the introduction of the league system, I personally do not have enough information about the achievements in the old seasons, whether I spent this season better or worse. I would play more 1x1 and 2x2 if there was a history of achievements for each year.
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The custom Avatars for the 4 brackets look really cool. Love it.
Cash price should be reserved for the top Grandmaster only.
