BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed only for FAF v25

Doompants

I know BlackOps hasn't really been touched in a while, but we've noticed that a recent patch broke the Aeon T3 tactical missile launcher (Purifier).

The recent Game Update 3738 makes reference to "(#3946) Fix damage of child projectiles, such as Cybran tactical missiles after they split"

I'm assuming it's a related problem since the Purifiers use child projectiles too.

To Recreate:

Build Aeon Purifier in any game.
Fire purifier at enemy structures.
Purifier will strike and appear to explode, but no damage to structures.

Thanks in advance

Jip

@Uveso to what repository can I make a pull request?

Uveso

you can use the git hub links from here:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/364/updated-mods-for-faf-and-vanilla-steam

Uveso

v20 (21.Aug.2022)

added missing translation tags in tooltip.lua
added german translation (translation by John kobo)
Unit bsl0310 (Lambda Equipped Assault Bot) Added StandUpright = true,
Unit bsb2402 (Seraphim Quantum Rift Archway) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Basic" to "RULEUTL_Experimental"
Unit bab1302 (Hydrocarbon Power Plant) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Basic" to "RULEUTL_Secret"
Unit beb4309 (Anti-Teleport Field Tower) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Advanced" to "RULEUTL_Secret"
Unit bab2404 (Artemis Satelite Control) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Secret" to "RULEUTL_Experimental"
Unit beb1302 (Hydrocarbon Power Plant) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Basic" to "RULEUTL_Secret"
Unit brb5205 (Advanced Air Staging Facility) Fixed Display.Abilities.
Unit bss0401 (Experimental Dreadnought) Changed Damage for weapon (Hu Strategic Missile Defense) from 30 to 30000.
Unit bra0309 (T3 Air Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 16,)
Unit bsa0309 (Tech3 Air Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 32,)
Unit bra0409 (Experimental Assault Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 20,)
Unit baa0309 (T3 Air Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 24,)
Unit bab2308 (Tactical Missile Launcher) fixed no damage on AMissileSerpentineProjectile

Doompants

Hey, nice! Some of us still play BlackOps all the time, so thanks for the fixes.

What do the changes to RULEUTL do anyways? Is that just UI stuff, or?

EDIT: NM. I found it in the wiki, thx.

Uveso

@Doompants

thanks a lot for your feedback and error report!

I play Black Ops a lot but have never seen that the Aeon T3 Tactical Missile Launcher is doing no damage.
Hopefully i fixed it right

Doompants

@uveso OH I guarantee you you did. I blasted the hell out of our resident Aeon player who didn't expect it to be working. That'll teach them to read the forums. Lol.

As a fun note, this getting fixed just in time to coincide with the TMD changes is interesting, because we always thought the Purifier was a little bit too hard to stop if you stacked multiples up and fired them together, but the TMD buff has made it a little more reasonable to stop multiple purifiers, so win/win.

Uveso

@Doompants

thank you a lot for the nice and appreciated feedback

lt_hawkeye

Always nice to check in once and a while and see this is still being played and somewhat maintained

Khannis

Love this, about to give it a spin again! For me there's no better way of playing this game

Nari

Is it possible to modify the experimental build times to align with FAF balance? It’s a little jarring with the vastly different build times of the Black Ops exps vs FAF exps.

Also attack drones on units don’t seem to be working.

fkdlao

steam game no??

BlackOps 6.0

UEF T4 Dreadnought - Conquest Class ATTACK no <---- Bug Fix Request

Uveso

@Nari ,

hello and thanks for your feedback!
Yes, its possible to change the buildtime for experimentals.

I am short in time, but you could write down the experimentals that need to change with
the new buildtime you think that will match FAF.

Also what drones on what unit are not working ?

@fkdlao

I am sorry, but this is a FAF only version of Black Ops.
No support for Steam or BlackOps 6.0

Doompants

Hey @Uveso .. Got another one. Something has recently broken BlackOps teleporting units. Most notably the T3 Aeon transports and the T3 Harassment bots. (ACU and SACU teleport still works).

Not sure if this was the recent FAF UI changes because the teleport button is there, but pressing it for these units now does nothing. The T3 Transport has a 5000 energy cost requirement. If that is not met the 'insufficient energy' error message appears, but if it IS met, the transport does nothing and defaults to finding a spot to land.

Replay doesn't really show anything, but I can make one if you want. Easy to replicate if you just cheat in a couple of each unit. Thx Sir!

Jip

We added some conditions to teleportation to prevent glitches:

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/4262

Those likely broke* the mod.

Doompants

Hey @Uveso . Hate me yet? lol

I don't know if this is under BlackOps or BlackOps ACU... But years ago there was a problem with Cybran ACU that the maser wouldn't function properly if the ACU got in a transport. That has since been fixed in Vanilla FAF (tested to make sure it wasn't reintroduced)

With BlackOps, that bug is still present. If the Cybran ACU teleports, it works fine. If they enter a transport, then when they land, it fires erratically, often not firing at all for long periods of time.

Let me know if I can provide a replay, but it's pretty easy to recreate also.

[edit] made a quick cheating replay with ping notations:
https://replay.faforever.com/19035328

Uveso

@doompants

why should i hate my best reporter for bugs???

As always thanks for your report, and i will write this down to my ToDo list.
Since this has been fixed in the FAF game, it should be easy to fix in Black Ops as well.

Doompants

@uveso

Well while you're penciling that 'to do' list..

If FAF is nerfing experimental crash damage in an upcoming patch, am I right in predicting any flying experimentals that BlackOps doesn't touch (ie Soulripper, Ahwassa) will get the nerf, but ones that are modified (ie Czar) and BlackOps units (like the UEF Flying Fortress) will stay with high damage because of how mod blueprints overwrite?

If it helps to have a list, here's the ones I would think need to be updated when those values get patched:

Czar (maybe: I don't know if crash damage is in the modded BlackOps Czar blueprint)
Artemis Satellite (Aeon)
Citadel (UEF)
Gargantuan (Cybran)

Uveso

Well, I calculate air crash damage using a fixed formula for all units in mods.

Let's see how random these FAF changes are or if they use some mathematical calculation for all units.

Jip

They are blueprint changes to individual units.