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Importance and amount of shields on firebases, for Aeon vs Cybran

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    Valki
    last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 16:47

    I am 1100 rated 2v2 and my (newcomer-ish) 2v2 friend now 700 rated but rapidly ascending, had a discussion about shields and firebases.

    He, Cybran, said he often didn't bother with shields because they took so long to build and had barely more hitpoints than T2 arty. He would rather build his artillery farther apart. Me, Aeon, thought he was entirely wrong until we discovered he got a 4000 shield for 700 buildtime, and I got a 11000 hp shield for 950 buildtime.

    Ultimately our conclusion was that next time he builds a firebase I give him an Aeon T2 engineer.

    Still, I am curious now. What is the best amount of shields for Cybran and Aeon firebases and does the importance of shields for firebases vary per faction?

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      Resistance
      last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 17:01

      Why would you build a firebase anyway? Those are super expensive and extremely ineficient

      queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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        MajorTrouble @Resistance
        last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 17:06

        @rezy-noob decrease in travel time or stealth kills come to mind-holding a choke point would also be a big one

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          Resistance
          last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 17:07

          in current meta rushing t3 land would be faster and better than making 4 t2 pds,1 sheild,several t1s and a t2 arties

          queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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            Valki @Resistance
            last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 17:07

            @rezy-noob said in Importance and amount of shields on firebases, for Aeon vs Cybran:

            Why would you build a firebase anyway? Those are super expensive and extremely ineficient

            Thanks, that is good to know.

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              Resistance @Valki
              last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 17:14

              @valki you can find some useful stuff here,most of them are still good to get a proper base if you want to learn
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uE1-xS2uk&list=PLxH0oefiZR_VrY6qtvv4iIHfn6i6ipnaS&ab_channel=Heaven

              queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                w3Edich7 @Resistance
                last edited by w3Edich7 9 Jun 2021, 10:35 5 Sept 2021, 12:14

                i just wanted to add 2 more (maybe helpful) links

                another related video from heaven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjSVmgvq_kw
                and a recently uploaded video from TheDuelist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GyPFSrWaqk

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                  JazzFunkNoob
                  last edited by 5 Sept 2021, 16:15

                  I agree, cybran ED1 could definetly use a build time buff. when hurridly constructing a fire base against an acu buildtime only matters and it feels like 4th pd is going to do a lot more than a shield over 3 pds

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                    archsimkat
                    last edited by 6 Sept 2021, 01:28

                    ED1 does not need a buff, it is the most flexible shield gen in regular 1v1 games. If you're playing sera in 1v1, you're not going to build a shield to cover one or two pgens when it costs more than half as much as a t2 pgen. With Cybran you always can drop a shield since it's so cheap and it helps protect against t2 bombers/not get 1 shot by an arty drop.

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                      TheWeakie
                      last edited by 6 Sept 2021, 10:47

                      If anything the real crime is being unable to upgrade aeon t2's to t3

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