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Swkoll

Personally, I would like to see money going to showmatches being used to match wagers by the players participating (ie $50 from each player and $100 from FAF) with winner takes all. This would encourage more serious play from players as well as make it more exciting for viewers rather than watching BH and petric play a BO7 over $20.

FtXCommando

There is no market for player buy-ins. That saw zero success last year and I don’t really see why it would change now.

Swkoll

@FtXCommando Fair, but I still think a 60/40 spilt for a showmatch does not encourage players to try their hardest which should be the point of a showmatch.

FtXCommando

@Dragun101 said in FAFLive ShowMatches:

Could future SCTA Showmatches be part of this Ftx?

If they fit the requirements yes, otherwise no they fall under a different purpose.

FtXCommando

@Rowey said in FAFLive ShowMatches:

Show Match Could Use MapBan as a way or more Audiance Interaction from what the players are Deciding

Also yeah I’ll try to include this more for authored map tournaments.

Tex

I'll play vs anyone, rating/schedule depending.
I would also be down to play a series on 'old classic' maps, such as Theta, Palms, VYA, Darozas, Emerald, Roanoke, EOTS, Syrtis. Open to suggestions for these maps.
Also down to play current/last months ladder pool, vetoed down to a BO7.
Faction veto for both series would be nice.

I like winner take all. Giving people money just to play before they even start the series sounds a little strange to me, but If that helps encourage showmatches/viewership, fine by me.

I also like the idea that you play 7 games total, and win ~14$ per victory.

Also, do you know why we stopped doing WWPC? That might be a good series to re-implement.

FtXCommando

I’m not going to maintain WWPC but anyone that wants to maintain it is free to restart it.

Tagada

I think that a compromise between winner takes all and splitting the money initially would be best. System where you divide the prize pool by number of games and securing each map win grants you a part of the prize. This combined with a system where you play a fixed amount of games instead of Best Of Series results in lengthy series where both players try their best but there isn't a complete disappointment if you loose the series over all. Eg. you have a 9 game series where each map win grants the player 1/9 of the 100$ prize pool which would be ~10.1$.

Blackheart

I disagree with @Swkoll here: The point of a showmatch is to be entertaining. Thats why its called "showmatch" and not "Championship" or "Epic duel to death over 999 games". Its a nice way to test out more unconventional settings (like mapgen unexplored or whatever ideas) and to have something a bit more serious/organized than just random ladder games. Why would you not try your hardest when playing, if its a "soft" split? Everyone likes to win more than lose, I dont think thats an issue whatsoever. The soft split is there to keep it friendly and to compensate the potential non-perfect competitive setting a showmatch can have.

nine2

Where do the faflive funds come from?

nine2

Is it ad revenue or something?

Tagada

It's coming from Subs probably

Swkoll

@nine2

For the last month:
$39.36 Subs
$4.47 Cheering
$3.51 Ads

A small amount of this is reoccurring, but we saw big spikes during the days the Spring Invitational was streamed, especially during the playoffs.

Rowey

@Swkoll plus you can't access this till thier is $100 or more once thier is then it will be payed to the account its associated with

FtXCommando

We are well over that.

FtXCommando

April 24th 2021
2v2 BO7

Players: archsimkat and harzer99 vs Autopsy and WoundedElk
Game 1: https://replay.faforever.com/14369345 on Canis 4v4
Game 2: https://replay.faforever.com/14369863 on crazyrush
Game 3: https://replay.faforever.com/14370007 on HardFFA
Game 4: https://replay.faforever.com/14370129 on RMG
Game 5: https://replay.faforever.com/14370374 on Phenom Spartiate
Game 6: https://replay.faforever.com/14370544 on RMG
Game 7: https://replay.faforever.com/14370683 on Stella Maris

Askaholic

Will there be discord pings for future show matches?

FtXCommando

Yeah, works out well for these actually since show matches are a bit more sporadic to organize compared to traditional tournaments.

Dragun101

Ftx gonna post replays for SCTA FAFlive show matches?

nine2

Links to casts:
FAFLive: https://www.twitch.tv/faflive
Jagged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5DOD0cPmYE

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