FAFLive ShowMatches

I am up for the challenge. Can do both some normal 1vs1 series or something themed eg. mapgen, mapgen unexplored, heavy eco & macro maps like Seton, Pizza, Ditch, Painted Desert, Crazy Rush etc.

Id be up for a series under the following conditions:

  • 7 games, all games played
  • Prize split around 60/40 winner/loser
  • All games map gen, varying map gen settings/sizes/unexplored mode preferred
  • Random civ

Id be willing to stream my POV if wanted.

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In, would also prefer mapgen. The format should by default be X games instead of BOx for consistent outcome and more games on average. Money should be x for each game and y for each game won or just a light split like bh suggested.

Yeah, agree with points made by Petric and BH. I was also thinking about both players streaming their POV and the Main stream switching between Observers and POV (from actual player's streams) of players. If done well that would lead to some very fun and also educational streams.

Could future SCTA Showmatches be part of this Ftx?

I’m a shitty 1k Global. Any balance or gameplay suggestions should be understood or taken as such.

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Show Match Could Use MapBan as a way or more Audiance Interaction from what the players are Deciding

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

Personally, I would like to see money going to showmatches being used to match wagers by the players participating (ie $50 from each player and $100 from FAF) with winner takes all. This would encourage more serious play from players as well as make it more exciting for viewers rather than watching BH and petric play a BO7 over $20.

There is no market for player buy-ins. That saw zero success last year and I don’t really see why it would change now.

@FtXCommando Fair, but I still think a 60/40 spilt for a showmatch does not encourage players to try their hardest which should be the point of a showmatch.

@Dragun101 said in FAFLive ShowMatches:

Could future SCTA Showmatches be part of this Ftx?

If they fit the requirements yes, otherwise no they fall under a different purpose.

@Rowey said in FAFLive ShowMatches:

Show Match Could Use MapBan as a way or more Audiance Interaction from what the players are Deciding

Also yeah I’ll try to include this more for authored map tournaments.

I'll play vs anyone, rating/schedule depending.
I would also be down to play a series on 'old classic' maps, such as Theta, Palms, VYA, Darozas, Emerald, Roanoke, EOTS, Syrtis. Open to suggestions for these maps.
Also down to play current/last months ladder pool, vetoed down to a BO7.
Faction veto for both series would be nice.

I like winner take all. Giving people money just to play before they even start the series sounds a little strange to me, but If that helps encourage showmatches/viewership, fine by me.

I also like the idea that you play 7 games total, and win ~14$ per victory.

Also, do you know why we stopped doing WWPC? That might be a good series to re-implement.

I’m not going to maintain WWPC but anyone that wants to maintain it is free to restart it.

I think that a compromise between winner takes all and splitting the money initially would be best. System where you divide the prize pool by number of games and securing each map win grants you a part of the prize. This combined with a system where you play a fixed amount of games instead of Best Of Series results in lengthy series where both players try their best but there isn't a complete disappointment if you loose the series over all. Eg. you have a 9 game series where each map win grants the player 1/9 of the 100$ prize pool which would be ~10.1$.

I disagree with @Swkoll here: The point of a showmatch is to be entertaining. Thats why its called "showmatch" and not "Championship" or "Epic duel to death over 999 games". Its a nice way to test out more unconventional settings (like mapgen unexplored or whatever ideas) and to have something a bit more serious/organized than just random ladder games. Why would you not try your hardest when playing, if its a "soft" split? Everyone likes to win more than lose, I dont think thats an issue whatsoever. The soft split is there to keep it friendly and to compensate the potential non-perfect competitive setting a showmatch can have.

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Where do the faflive funds come from?

Is it ad revenue or something?

It's coming from Subs probably

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For the last month:
$39.36 Subs
$4.47 Cheering
$3.51 Ads

A small amount of this is reoccurring, but we saw big spikes during the days the Spring Invitational was streamed, especially during the playoffs.

@Swkoll plus you can't access this till thier is $100 or more once thier is then it will be payed to the account its associated with

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock