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    • BlackheartB Offline
      Blackheart
      last edited by

      Id be up for a series under the following conditions:

      • 7 games, all games played
      • Prize split around 60/40 winner/loser
      • All games map gen, varying map gen settings/sizes/unexplored mode preferred
      • Random civ

      Id be willing to stream my POV if wanted.

      Ban Anime

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      • Fremy_SpeeddrawF Offline
        Fremy_Speeddraw
        last edited by

        In, would also prefer mapgen. The format should by default be X games instead of BOx for consistent outcome and more games on average. Money should be x for each game and y for each game won or just a light split like bh suggested.

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        • T Offline
          Tagada Balance Team
          last edited by

          Yeah, agree with points made by Petric and BH. I was also thinking about both players streaming their POV and the Main stream switching between Observers and POV (from actual player's streams) of players. If done well that would lead to some very fun and also educational streams.

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          • Dragun101D Offline
            Dragun101
            last edited by

            Could future SCTA Showmatches be part of this Ftx?

            I’m a shitty 1k Global. Any balance or gameplay suggestions should be understood or taken as such.

            Project Head and current Owner/Manager of SCTA Project

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            • RoweyR Offline
              Rowey
              last edited by

              Show Match Could Use MapBan as a way or more Audiance Interaction from what the players are Deciding

              "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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              • SwkollS Offline
                Swkoll
                last edited by

                Personally, I would like to see money going to showmatches being used to match wagers by the players participating (ie $50 from each player and $100 from FAF) with winner takes all. This would encourage more serious play from players as well as make it more exciting for viewers rather than watching BH and petric play a BO7 over $20.

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                • FtXCommandoF Offline
                  FtXCommando
                  last edited by

                  There is no market for player buy-ins. That saw zero success last year and I don’t really see why it would change now.

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                  • SwkollS Offline
                    Swkoll @FtXCommando
                    last edited by

                    @FtXCommando Fair, but I still think a 60/40 spilt for a showmatch does not encourage players to try their hardest which should be the point of a showmatch.

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                    • FtXCommandoF Offline
                      FtXCommando @Dragun101
                      last edited by

                      @Dragun101 said in FAFLive ShowMatches:

                      Could future SCTA Showmatches be part of this Ftx?

                      If they fit the requirements yes, otherwise no they fall under a different purpose.

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                      • FtXCommandoF Offline
                        FtXCommando @Rowey
                        last edited by

                        @Rowey said in FAFLive ShowMatches:

                        Show Match Could Use MapBan as a way or more Audiance Interaction from what the players are Deciding

                        Also yeah I’ll try to include this more for authored map tournaments.

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                        • T Offline
                          Tex
                          last edited by

                          I'll play vs anyone, rating/schedule depending.
                          I would also be down to play a series on 'old classic' maps, such as Theta, Palms, VYA, Darozas, Emerald, Roanoke, EOTS, Syrtis. Open to suggestions for these maps.
                          Also down to play current/last months ladder pool, vetoed down to a BO7.
                          Faction veto for both series would be nice.

                          I like winner take all. Giving people money just to play before they even start the series sounds a little strange to me, but If that helps encourage showmatches/viewership, fine by me.

                          I also like the idea that you play 7 games total, and win ~14$ per victory.

                          Also, do you know why we stopped doing WWPC? That might be a good series to re-implement.

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                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                            FtXCommando
                            last edited by

                            I’m not going to maintain WWPC but anyone that wants to maintain it is free to restart it.

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                            • T Offline
                              Tagada Balance Team
                              last edited by Tagada

                              I think that a compromise between winner takes all and splitting the money initially would be best. System where you divide the prize pool by number of games and securing each map win grants you a part of the prize. This combined with a system where you play a fixed amount of games instead of Best Of Series results in lengthy series where both players try their best but there isn't a complete disappointment if you loose the series over all. Eg. you have a 9 game series where each map win grants the player 1/9 of the 100$ prize pool which would be ~10.1$.

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                              • BlackheartB Offline
                                Blackheart
                                last edited by

                                I disagree with @Swkoll here: The point of a showmatch is to be entertaining. Thats why its called "showmatch" and not "Championship" or "Epic duel to death over 999 games". Its a nice way to test out more unconventional settings (like mapgen unexplored or whatever ideas) and to have something a bit more serious/organized than just random ladder games. Why would you not try your hardest when playing, if its a "soft" split? Everyone likes to win more than lose, I dont think thats an issue whatsoever. The soft split is there to keep it friendly and to compensate the potential non-perfect competitive setting a showmatch can have.

                                Ban Anime

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                                • nine2N Offline
                                  nine2
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                                  Where do the faflive funds come from?

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                                  • nine2N Offline
                                    nine2
                                    last edited by

                                    Is it ad revenue or something?

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                                    • T Offline
                                      Tagada Balance Team
                                      last edited by

                                      It's coming from Subs probably

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                                      • SwkollS Offline
                                        Swkoll @nine2
                                        last edited by

                                        @nine2

                                        For the last month:
                                        $39.36 Subs
                                        $4.47 Cheering
                                        $3.51 Ads

                                        A small amount of this is reoccurring, but we saw big spikes during the days the Spring Invitational was streamed, especially during the playoffs.

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                                        • RoweyR Offline
                                          Rowey @Swkoll
                                          last edited by

                                          @Swkoll plus you can't access this till thier is $100 or more once thier is then it will be payed to the account its associated with

                                          "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                            FtXCommando
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                                            We are well over that.

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