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      Aurahead @Ctrl-K
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      @Ctrl-K

      How do I enable that debugger to see more info?
      It is under settings of FAF Client? (experimental)

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          Aurahead @Ctrl-K
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          @Ctrl-K said in Desync issue:

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          game_24272254.log

          Here is the log file now after we just got desync like a min ago. I have enable that you showed.

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            Ctrl-K
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            A-Volute thing can cause it by injecting itself into game memory.

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              Aurahead @Ctrl-K
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              @Ctrl-K said in Desync issue:

              A-Volute thing can cause it by injecting itself into game memory.

              What does it mean? 😕

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                Ctrl-K
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                It means some software you use can cause problems for game.

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                  Aurahead @Ctrl-K
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                  @Ctrl-K said in Desync issue:

                  It means some software you use can cause problems for game.

                  I tried to understand the log but just get confused. Does it say specific what software it can be?

                  EDIT: I did saw a program running that called A-Valute, seems to be Sonic Studio. I will try and manually terminate that one and see if desync still persist.

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                    Aurahead
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                    game_24280385.log

                    I have removed A-Volute but still desync

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                      magge Global Moderator
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                      From the first log I saw:

                      warning: SND: XACT3DApply failed.
                      

                      So, I would guess try to solve it via this: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4084/solutions-for-snd-error-xact-invalid-arg-xact3dapply-failed

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                        Aurahead @magge
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                        @magge said in Desync issue:

                        From the first log I saw:

                        warning: SND: XACT3DApply failed.
                        

                        So, I would guess try to solve it via this: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4084/solutions-for-snd-error-xact-invalid-arg-xact3dapply-failed

                        I have tried most of on list but still cannot find issue, now I use cable headphone gonna see if that is the issue. Was using wireless with usb dongle. Here is latest crash. game_24297012.log

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                          magge Global Moderator
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                          Seems like you fixed the xact error - that is good progress.

                          Can you reproduce the issue without any mods?
                          If it happens with mods, you have to enable them one by one to find the mod that is causing the issue. It is tedious, but there is no other way.

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                            Aurahead @magge
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                            @magge said in Desync issue:

                            Seems like you fixed the xact error - that is good progress.

                            Can you reproduce the issue without any mods?
                            If it happens with mods, you have to enable them one by one to find the mod that is causing the issue. It is tedious, but there is no other way.

                            I guess that is the only way, funny is that on my laptop I can play it without any desync with same mods that I use on my desktop. I will try tonight with cable headphone instead of wireless since I haven't got time to test that yet.

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                              Aurahead @Aurahead
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                              @Aurahead said in Desync issue:

                              @magge said in Desync issue:

                              From the first log I saw:

                              warning: SND: XACT3DApply failed.
                              

                              So, I would guess try to solve it via this: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4084/solutions-for-snd-error-xact-invalid-arg-xact3dapply-failed

                              I have tried most of on list but still cannot find issue, now I use cable headphone gonna see if that is the issue. Was using wireless with usb dongle. Here is latest crash. game_24297012.log

                              This is super weird, I have played 6 games tonight without any desync, I removed my USB wireless headphone and use wired. If this was the issue lol then I am happy.

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                                Aurahead
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                                I will keep trying with same method and see if the USB wireless headphone is the one that cause desync. Feels like I need more games to really be sure about it.

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                                  Doompants
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                                  Our playgroup is trying to solve some of its own desync issues. I am assuming that this snippit from my log suggests that Docsyn is the person whose logs will shed more light? I have asked them to send them to me.

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                                  But what intrigues me is that I always assumed it was just mods or perhaps bad installs that caused this, but y'all are saying hardware or drivers can cause game desyncs too? That's wild.

                                  I'll probably post some logs here soon as soon as he gets them to me. It's not happening every game, but ruining one game a week is annoying enough.

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                                    Doompants
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                                    game_24325122.log

                                    Here is the log from Docsyn if any of y'all could spare your eyes to look into it for a moment. I've combed through it but don't know what to look for.

                                    Thx in advance.

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                                      Aurahead @Doompants
                                      last edited by Aurahead

                                      @Doompants said in Desync issue:

                                      game_24325122.log

                                      Here is the log from Docsyn if any of y'all could spare your eyes to look into it for a moment. I've combed through it but don't know what to look for.

                                      Thx in advance.

                                      I did a run yesterday with 4 buddies against 5 AI and yea I got desync and it pointed to me. And later that night me and another friend played without desync. A couple night before we were 3 against 3 AI and we played 6 games without any desync. It seems that more human player it trigger desync for me.

                                      I heard some people say it can be hardware related like you are having a certain chips or network card etc etc or even usb wireless headphone. I have never got any desync on my laptop and I have played like 50 games, I only get it on my desktop and I have exactly same stuff installed (program wise).

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                                        Doompants
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                                        Would still love some help tracking this down if anyone who knows their way around a log file could take a look, or give me some idea what I'm looking for. We play with a few mods, but nothing obscure, and these desyncs are recent and seem to be ruining at least 1 game every week or two. I know I had Docsyn turn on the FAF Debugger. Hopefully that's reflected in the log.

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                                          Salz @Doompants
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                                          @Doompants

                                          Check your game files of Supreme Commander Forged Alliance via Steam.

                                          https://support.rebellion.com/hc/en-gb/articles/5226744283549-How-do-I-verify-my-game-files

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                                            Aurahead @Salz
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                                            @Salz said in Desync issue:

                                            @Doompants

                                            Check your game files of Supreme Commander Forged Alliance via Steam.

                                            https://support.rebellion.com/hc/en-gb/articles/5226744283549-How-do-I-verify-my-game-files

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                                            Already done that.

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