how to never lag?
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so randomly with no prior warnings (as in played a game completely fine with no lag to anyone (7 other players) just minutes before) from beginning of the game, it lags, to a point of a slideshow, and most players ingame say they see specifically me as "behind", while sometimes it does seem to be my internet and I can see everyone else as behind (because I am the one lagging in that case), and in this case the only solution being to completely disconnect and reconnect to internet that fixes it and that's fine (not really fine due to no warning signs until the game already starts but at least solvable)
but sometimes I only see 1 player as having frequent drops to while the rest seem normal, the ping is also completely normal towards everyone including those players the entire time, yet whenever I ask in these situations, the other players say they only see me as behind and not the other player, implying it must be solely my problem and no one elses, running speedtests in middle of game shows nothing different than usual either, nor is anything else using the internet at all
from my understanding of peer to peer, when there is a connection problem, it is always a two way thing because there is no central server for someone to have a bad connection to alone, only between each other, which means it cannot be only one player's connection being a problem as any connection is a connection from that player to specific other player and thus two way, according to this, if I am behind, that must mean I am either lagging towards everyone or towards specific players, why does then everyone see only me as behind but not these other player(s) that have bad connection to me equally as I do to them?
this is starting to create some kind of undeserved reputation of me being a "lagger" that is debilitating my ability to even join lobbies in first place and that I can't do anything about because I don't even know what is wrong in first place, so what do I do to never lag, like everyone else seems not to even without any effort on their part whatsoever, to have flawless connection to everyone except myslef? and why can't others see the connection problem two-way if it really is peer to peer but only me as the one lagging (to one other player that they don't see as lagging or behind for no apparent reason)
yes I already have everything else that could be using the internet disabled, yes I already have ICE set to closest server to the area, no I am not downloading or uploading anything, I literally have resource monitor on at all times and nothing except faf uses more than 1kb of internet at the time (most of which is windows' bloatware that you can't turn off), phone has internet disabled at the time as well
and yes I am using wifi because I can't use anything else, the router is 2 rooms away and there is never a problem between router and pc, it is also set to prioritize internet from my pc over literally everything else
so once again what do I do to have flawless zero drop connection to everyone that everyone else has with zero effort or struggle, let alone constant? and why can't anyone else see anyone except me as having connection problem ingame, even when problem clearly is between 2 of us, everyone only sees me as having the problem but not the other person (that the connection problem is with)?
on a related note, is anyone here using starlink internet when playing FAF and does it work with it due to constant satellite switching stuff? it is literally the only other option I have (all other available ISP are equal garbage due to oligopoly)
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how to never lag?
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SMOLL ODDICTION: That guy Talking about internet. So...
Just pay more then 10$ per month to good enthernet, woulbe cool bro! -
lol I'm talking about internet caused lag, not cpu, cpu is at least easily solvable by getting a better one
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@mach i-net also same issue xd
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@Mach likely your router is dropping packets and forcing you to have to constantly resend data or something.
Best you could probably do is setup a wired connection.
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First off, do you lag in any other games or noticeable any other issues with your internet?
Second, is your modem on this list?
https://approvedmodemlist.com/intel-puma-6-modem-list-chipset-defects/ -
I recommend borrowing an Ethernet cable and testing if that improves the situation. I also sometimes had problems with the connection while using WiFi even when it appeared to be fine otherwise. These problems are gone since I switched to cable.
Even if it doesn't work out for you, you then can at least rule out the connection between your router and PC as the troublemaker -
it is not on the list
I do have problems in other games and internet itself sometimes but they are impossible to predict or fix, sometimes it works completely fine, sometimes it lags for no reason whatsoever, but there is nothing I can do about them because when it lags, nothing exists to indicate why, nothing else is using the internet and restarting modem/connections does absolutely nothing for longer than 10 seconds if at all, it also lags not just on this one pc but on anything connected to internet through modem, the constant calling of isp to fix it just works once if it does at all, then goes back to trash again after a while
wire is kind of not an option because it would need to be like 20 meters long and go through multiple walls, idk if I can even get a cable long enough
also if it was a problem between pc and router, how can it sometimes work completely fine? the geometry of the place never changes to have a different effect on the connection between the 2, idk any tests for checking packet loss between specifically pc and router either, they all seem to only exist from pc all the way to destination which doesn't tell a lot about where the problem is, only that it exists at any point between, the one I usually use is https://packetlosstest.com/, and often have packet loss to UK server but not to others, atm for example, there is zero packet loss to even UK server, but that can change easier than weather and even less predictably
I forgot to ask, but does vpn have any effect for anyone who had similar problems?
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Do you use a free vpn?
Do you have a virus or cryptominer?
When issues occur, can you surf the internet normally?
Is anyone else using your router?
Have you changed the default password on your router?
Could someone else be using your wifi?
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no vpn (that's why I asked if it would help to use one)
no virus or crypto
internet is normal even then for browsers and other stuff
yes but so are they when it doesn't lag
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yes but so are they when it doesn't lag
same as when there is no lag (~20mbs download, 10 or less mbs upload), on packet loss test one though it can have some lossesEDIT: another thing I notice is that the lag is usually specifically towards people from ireland, rarely to anyone else, weirdly, and the country isn't even far from here while having no lag to countries far further away
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You are using wifi through multiple walls and over a significant distance. I'm not surprised that the wifi can sometimes experience packet loss. I really urge you to at least temporarily try out a cable to compare the situation.
I got a 20m flat ethernet cable for my home. It's so flat that I can even fit it through doors without issue. That fixed all my internet issues and your situation seems pretty similar.
At this distance the signal strengths is weakened and basically anything can disturb the transmission. The neighbor using his wifi, the neighbor starting his microwave, Basically anything else that causes electromagnetic waves. I'd say it's practically impossible to detect these things. -
long ago i have heared advice to disable extra network stuff (see screenshot) as people claimed that ice adapter would search all your network stuff and having to much of it may confuse it or slow it down. Can't confirm that it helps.
Also you can try to run ping or better something more advanced (no idea what, but something that would sent packets more than just once a sec like ping does) to check if your connection is ok, you can simulteniosly run this and check connection to router and to something in your country and to something in another county and maybe when you have connection issues you will see lost packets everywhere or you will see packets go to router but fail to go anywhere else, or you will see packets go to router and go to some server in your country but fail to go outside your county or something like that, can set more those checks just so you can know if that is something with your internet, or with your provider or with some magistral(?) - providers of higher tier that sell bandwith to regular providers
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ok I tried disabling all other network devices, will have to wait and see if there is any noticeable effect
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If you are using Wi-Fi as you cannot run a lan cable for any reason, get a TP-Link AV1000 Powerline Starter Kit to send the internet through the electrical cabling in your house. I'm pretty sure it's witchcraft but it does work!
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^Ethernet through powerline is a good option if you can't run a dedicated cable. Linus Tech Tips on youtube actually just put out a video about it yesterday I believe.
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@Mach
As BlackYps said, cable length isn't a problem unless it's like 50m+. Also, what you want to look for, as Yps already mentioned, is a 'flat cable'. They are made so that you can have them go in between doors and door frames. So there is no drilling or other destructive work needed to be done - you might want to get some wall-mounted cable holders to keep things tidy. The flat cable should work as long as you don't need it to pass trough PVC or anti-burglary doors (which I'm assuming you don't, those are usually installed for doors that lead to the outside, not in between rooms), or you have some super-ultra air-tight door, which is rare for indoor doors.
Regardless of your ability to get such a cable, I'd strongly urge you to do as Yps said and at least get any kind of cable, and move your setup temporarily to another room to check if connecting via a cable really fixes it - if you conclude that it does, then you can ponder on how to actually get he cable into your room.Also, if you look around, you probably can find a PC shop in your area that can get you any-length cable made (as long as it is less than say 100m).
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the cable part is unfortunately non-negotiable, the problem is that it would be an "eye sore" to have it running through several rooms, no matter the drilling of walls being needed or not (which in itself separately is also out of the question), nor the cable's appearance unless it is literally invisible
I may try the powerline adapter solution though since it seems it would have same effect as a cable without cable's problems, but I need to check first if disabling those devices changes anything as well, only way to check so far is to try playing like this until I either run into same problems or it just works fine on its own (or more like waiting until I run into same problems, to prove it's not that)
and once again I forgot to mention something, but when there is a problem to specific player, when joining a lobby without that specific player, there is no lag ingame once again, without any changes being done to anything, which makes it look as if the problem is outside this entire area in first place and invariant of its interior connectivity (since it can be lag free even with wireless just minutes after it was lagging, just by there not being the specific player in game that the lag was solely towards), and is also why I don't understand how everyone sees me lagging but not the other player since problem obviously only exists between the 2 of us, like I have to remind people "look how I am not lagging now when this player isn't in game" and they will still think it was solely my problem and dismiss the current evidence of persistent no lag situation
